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GoldenEye: The Real Meltdown
IBD Editorials ^ | October 2, 2008

Posted on 10/03/2008 3:09:31 AM PDT by Kaslin

Strategic Defense: A new report says the United States must develop robust missile and space defenses to counter China. If you think the current economic crisis is something, imagine the effects of a nuke over Iowa.


Imagine a world in which you can't get money from your bank or can't get a loan. You can't get money from your ATM even if it's within walking distance. You can't drive to one because your car won't work. No, it's not what would happen if the Congress doesn't pass a bailout bill.

This is a small snapshot of what would happen if a hostile power detonated a nuclear weapon high over the United States generating an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) that would fry virtually every circuit and electronic device in the U.S., sending America and its economy back a century or more in time.

In the 1995 James Bond flick "GoldenEye," Agent 007 fights to prevent an arms syndicate from hijacking a Russian "GoldenEye" satellite weapon to fire an electromagnetic pulse against London in order to cause a global financial meltdown. We may soon see life imitating art unless we heed the warning of a draft report by the secretary of state's International Security Advisory Board.

The ISAB report addresses the growing threat from China but could apply equally to a rearming and resurgent Russia and an ambitious and soon-to-be-nuclear Iran. To avoid increasing vulnerability, the report says, "the United States will need to pursue new missile defense capabilities, including taking full advantage of space."

There is also a new threat whereby a single nuclear weapon could paralyze the U.S.

(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; apocalypse; armsbuildup; defense; electricgrid; electromagneticpulse; emp; ibd; iran; missiledefense; missileshield; nationalsecurity; nucleariran; scud; sdi; shahab; starwars

1 posted on 10/03/2008 3:09:31 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
I'm not sure a single detonation in a single spot would do all the harm this article claims, but I know for a fact that American weapons systems have been hardened for years against this possibility. We would know who did it (terrorists don't yet have the capability to detonate an EMP weapon over Iowa, and won't for years) and I'm sure would retaliate in a way that the perpetrator would never forget.

Unless we have President Obama, in which case he would fall to his knees and beg forgiveness of whoever did that to us, apologize for whatever we did that made them so angry, and vow to pass legislation to compensate them for any harm we had caused.

2 posted on 10/03/2008 3:17:52 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (0bama's past associations need a good "Ayering out".)
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To: Kaslin; 444Flyer; Esther Ruth
Imagine a world in which you can't get money from your bank or can't get a loan. You can't get money from your ATM even if it's within walking distance.

Revelation 13:16-18 (King James Version)

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

That day is coming ... eventually
3 posted on 10/03/2008 3:18:37 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Kaslin

Not to worry. President Obama’s agressive diplopmacy will prevent this. And if not, Pelosi and Reid will subsidize wooden arrows.


4 posted on 10/03/2008 3:18:47 AM PDT by wny
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To: Kaslin

Why bother defending our skies when our borders are porous?


5 posted on 10/03/2008 3:23:31 AM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: Hardastarboard
I'm not sure a single detonation in a single spot would do all the harm this article claims, 

Correct. An EMP weapon has never been used, the best we have is educated speculation. It would be effective but not nationwide

but I know for a fact that American weapons systems have been hardened for years against this possibility. We would know who did it (terrorists don't yet have the capability to detonate an EMP weapon over Iowa, and won't for years) and I'm sure would retaliate in a way that the perpetrator would never forget.

No retaliation would be possible if EMP armed cruise missiles were fired from ships off the East Coast that would be scuttled and sunk after firing off the missile. One EMP missile each for New York, Washington, Boston would create plenty of chaos

6 posted on 10/03/2008 3:32:15 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: Kaslin
There is also a new threat whereby a single nuclear weapon could paralyze the U.S.

It's hardly a new threat, it shows up every few years. Military systems are shielded, as are modern civilian systems. Newer cars could have a problem - most these days have plastic, not steel bodies and don't provide shielding - but the chips may be shielded to protect them from the engine's electromagnetic emanations from spark plugs and wiring. Here’s a link that has some good information -
http://www.cecer.army.mil/facts/sheets/FL16.html

From this site - http://www.unitedstatesaction.com/emp-terror.htm
“Electrical equipment is "hardened" to protect itself from an EMP. The basic concern of protection is cutting down the outside EMP level. Metallic shielding is used to route EMP fields away from vital electrical components. If it is also connected to a cable, transient protection like surge protectors, wire termination procedures, screened isolated transformers, protective enclosures, spark gaps, and filters are used to protect at the point of entry. To protect against EMP in an indirect way, other methods are used, such as increasing immediate backup units and avoidance (i.e. keeping equipment out of range of EMP bursts).”
The site also gives a good explanation of the EMP as a weapon and methods used to shield from it.

Don’t get me wrong - I’m strongly in favor of a viable missile defense, but my concern isn’t as much with the EMP weapon as with the standard nuke hitting a city.

7 posted on 10/03/2008 3:37:27 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: dennisw
Correct. An EMP weapon has never been used, the best we have is educated speculation.

From http://www.unitedstatesaction.com/emp-terror.htm
“The existence of the electromagnetic pulse has been known since the 1940's when nuclear weapons were being developed and tested. However, because of lack of data, the effects of an EMP were not fully known until 1962. At this time, the United States was conducting a series of high-altitude atmospheric tests, code named "Fishbowl." The nuclear explosion, "Starfish Prime," which was detonated in the Pacific Ocean 800 miles from Hawaii, caused an EMP that disrupted radio stations and electrical equipment throughout Hawaii. Consequently, in 1963, the United States and the Soviet Union signed the Atmospheric Test Ban Treaty to counter the considerable threat posed by EMPs. Unfortunately, the destructive potential of an EMP increases everyday as society becomes evermore technological because of an escalating dependence on electronics. “

8 posted on 10/03/2008 3:41:23 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: The Duke

AMEN!

I’ll always said you don’t need a missile delivery system if you can drive a truck!


9 posted on 10/03/2008 4:11:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: R. Scott
The nuclear explosion, "Starfish Prime," which was detonated in the Pacific Ocean 800 miles from Hawaii, caused an EMP that disrupted radio stations and electrical equipment throughout Hawaii.

Now if we just knew what 'disrupted' meant...

10 posted on 10/03/2008 4:12:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hardastarboard

The energy to do national damage would require a multi-megaton warhead. A nuclear warhead detonating on or above the US will result in a response the sender does not want to contemplate.


11 posted on 10/03/2008 4:15:27 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: R. Scott

I suggest that electronics systems in 1962 were far different than today’s. Extrapolating 46-years old data based on ancient systems is not sound scientifically. While I’m sure there are theoretical reasons to worry about EMP, I would be cautious in accepting them based on data at hand.


12 posted on 10/03/2008 4:57:31 AM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America)
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To: R. Scott

Interesting because back then electronics were cruder thus more hardened just by the way they were made


13 posted on 10/03/2008 5:20:58 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: astounded
I suggest that electronics systems in 1962 were far different than today’s. Extrapolating 46-years old data based on ancient systems is not sound scientifically. While I’m sure there are theoretical reasons to worry about EMP, I would be cautious in accepting them based on data at hand.

Yeah the systems in 1962 were far more ROBUST and resistant to EMP then the current microprocessors and circuits. Thats why the military has been working for years to harden their equipment to EMP.
14 posted on 10/03/2008 5:25:35 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Hardastarboard

Washington State Department of Health

Office of Radiation Protection

Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP)

What Is EMP and How Is It Created?

The most important mechanism for Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) production from a nuclear detonation is the ionization of air molecules by gamma rays generated from the explosion. These gamma rays ionize the air molecules by interacting with the air molecules to produce positive ions and recoil electrons called Compton electrons. This pulse of energy, which produces a powerful electromagnetic field, particularly within the vicinity of the weapon burst, is called an electromagnetic pulse. EMP can also be produced from non-nuclear sources, such as electromagnetic bombs, or E-bombs.

High-altitude nuclear detonations and electromagnetic bombs can generate EMP that has the potential to damage or destroy electronic devices over widespread areas. Electric power systems would also be at risk from surges produced by such weapons. However, the EMP from a kiloton-range surface nuclear explosion would not be expected to produce serious damage outside the radius of severe destruction from blast.

A 1.4 Megaton bomb launched about 250 miles above Kansas would destroy most of the electronics that were not protected in the entire Continental United States. During the brief return to atmospheric testing in 1962, a 1.4 megaton nuclear weapon was detonated over Johnston Island at an altitude of about 250 miles. The effects of EMP were observed in Hawaii, 800 miles east of the detonation. Streetlights and fuses failed on Oahu and telephone service was disrupted on the Island of Kauai.

MORE

http://www.doh.wa.gov/ehp/rp/factsheets/factsheets-htm/fs41elecpuls.htm


15 posted on 10/03/2008 5:28:06 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Kaslin

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/dominic-lawson/dominic-lawson-democrat-fingerprints-are-all-over-the-financial-crisis-949653.html


16 posted on 10/03/2008 6:36:01 AM PDT by XHogPilot
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To: Kaslin

Ever hear of a Trident submarine....


17 posted on 10/03/2008 6:47:23 AM PDT by prairiebreeze ( Our troops DESERVE BETTER than Barack Hussein Obama!!)
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To: astounded

See post #7


18 posted on 10/03/2008 2:14:23 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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