Posted on 10/03/2008 8:51:01 AM PDT by bonnieblue4me
lol..
I'd be happy to see definitive evidence one way or the other.
Is that too much for a citizen to ask of from a person who might be President?
Thanks, Kevmo. Just an FYI: the concluding part of my two-part final report has been finalized. Part One has been up on Berg's website for quite awhile, now, and when we decide that the time is right to release Part Two to the public, all FReepers will be immediately notified.
We don't want to show our hand too early on this. But, I can tell you this: if you ask me about the paper document that FactCheck photographed, I'll reply, "Which one?"
I’m sure they’ll have a perfectly slimy, er... I mean reasonable explanation for it.
Like I said, take it up with Polarik. I refuse to believe you’re this stupid.
Then I’ll defer to your expertise in being an idiot. I gather you are this stupid.
There is no hand to show on this.
As Non-Sequitur has pointed out, even if the certificate is fake, that's not evidence that he was born in Kenya.
And as I have pointed out, and as Berg himself has pointed out, even if Obama were born in Hawaii and produces a "vault" copy of his Hawaiian birth certificate, it would be entirely irrelevant to Berg's claim of Obama's Indonesian citizenship.
However I have already been banned twice by Free Republic so I’m afraid I see no difference whatsoever between conservatives and liberals when it comes to intolerance of those who simply may disagree. And since I’ve now made this known, I’ll likely be banned yet a third time.
***Well, you’re probably right. But if this were your fist time you probably wouldn’t get banned.
So please don’t try and tell me that conservatives are more tolerant than liberals. It just isn’t so.
***I prefer objective analysis to subjective. That’s why I like Intrade. So... my suggestion to you is to log on at the Intrade forum and discuss politics there. It’s not liberal nor conservative, and the only thing you’ll get kicked out for is bad language or violence or stalking or something like that. Over there I post as ko, open supporter of Free Republic, Duncan Hunter, Sarah Palin, and all that is holy... ;-)
Many people are intolerant of that which they disagree with, regardless of their politics. It’s just a sad part of human nature.
***I agree.
Another example of that is Phil Berg himself.
.... However they have been systematically banning people there who have done nothing more than voice their comments. The only problem was that Berg didn’t agree with the comments. How’s that for someone claiming to have filed his lawsuit in order to uphold the Constitution?
***Here’s the thing to keep in mind. It’s Phil Berg’s website, his own private property, just like this here freeper thingy is JimRob’s kitchen. If someone kicks you out of their kitchen, it doesn’t mean they’ve removed your right to free speech in that town. Just in that little private property domain of their own kitchen.
Sorry if I’m being cynical here. But since I first started posting on this whole issue over three months ago, I’ve been met with nothing but the most visceral intolerance. From HillaryClintonForum, to TexasDarlin, to AtlasShrugs, to NoQuarter, to FreeRepublic, to ObamaCrimes.
***Try the Intrade thing. You can find my Birth Certificate thread over there:
Possibly Forged Obama Birth Certificate
http://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/150/2279.page
Trading isn’t necessary (you can sign up for a play money account and still post over there); just don’t say anything impolite about Intrade... that can’t be too difficult.
However NoQuarter is due some credit. They’re the only one on that list that hasn’t banned me.
***Give them time... ;-)
too much to read right now, maybe later
I'll likely be banned yet a third time. So please don't try and tell me that conservatives are more tolerant than liberals.
Conservatives are more tolerant that liberals. You are still here, right? Visit DU some time, although I don't recommend it. It is very difficult taking a shower with your hard drive.
I'm surprised this thread is still going. Then again, many things surprise me these days.
I can't wait for this election cycle to be over. We get a democrat like McCain, or we get a marxist like Obama. I'm not sure which is worst. Maybe Obama would be better. That way CWII would happen while I can still hump ammo and shoot straight. End this stupid debate about which is a better social model, capitalism or communism.
Oh, btw, thanks for your opinion.
5.56mm
There were two separate copies of the birth certificate on the internet based on close examination. Which would indicate something is NOT RIGHT.
Owned!
Actually, the first time I was banned, pissant, and I believe even yourself said that I shouldn't be banned. That was just moments before I was banned.
***Here’s the thing to keep in mind. It’s Phil Berg’s website, his own private property, just like this here freeper thingy is JimRob’s kitchen.
Absolutely. I would be the first to say that the First Amendment doesn't apply to private systems such as this.
However that doesn't change the fact that Berg publicly stated on his own website that he welcomed people to voice their comments there and that to do so was a right of free speech guaranteed by the Constitution.
Point being that Berg did nothing more than cynically wrap himself in the Constitution while feeding people a load of crap.
***Give them time... ;-)
Hehehe. Well, there's not really much opportunity. It seems this is all that's been said of the case over there since August 25th (by Larry Johnson):
Some are getting their shorts in a knot because I have not put up a piece on the Phil Berg law suit filed last week in Philadelphia challenging the candidacy of Barack Obama. The reason is simple. The case has been filed and there is nothing to report until the judge makes a decision and requires discovery. I wish Phil the best, but want to keep the focus on other issues for now. If the case moves forward we will cover it extensively. Okay?
With Johnson having been burned on such things as the "Whitey tape," Techdude, and the Hawaiian birth certificate in the name of Barry Soetoro, it seems he's not wanting to touch the Berg case with a ten foot pole.
Actually, the first time I was banned, pissant, and I believe even yourself said that I shouldn’t be banned. That was just moments before I was banned.
*** I suppose this means you’ll be banned soon again... but don’t say that conservatives aren’t tolerant because Pissant & I are among the most conservative. GMTA.
Conservatives are more tolerant that liberals. You are still here, right?
Only through subterfuge. ;)
Visit DU some time, although I don't recommend it. It is very difficult taking a shower with your hard drive.
Hey, I'm a 25 year veteran of online politics. I've seen nothing new here and I'm sure I won't see anything new over there. ;)
I can't wait for this election cycle to be over. We get a democrat like McCain, or we get a marxist like Obama. I'm not sure which is worst. Maybe Obama would be better. That way CWII would happen while I can still hump ammo and shoot straight. End this stupid debate about which is a better social model, capitalism or communism.
I've never really been candidate-oriented in my politics. Maybe because there's never been a candidate that I could really get behind and vote for without having reservations.
I dunno. Maybe I'm just being too picky.
Oh, btw, thanks for your opinion.
And thank you for at least giving my opinions a fair hearing.
What two separate copies are you referring to?
When it comes to stupidity who better than you would know?
I expect Obama to meet the same standards as other presidential candidates. So far he has.
If you think that's all Berg's suit is about, then you have not read the entire complaint. The birth certificate is key to proving or disproving that Obama is a "natural-born" citizen.
Nobody goes to the length that Obama and friends have gone to prevent his real birth certificate from ever being seen, unless it has incriminating information on it. The time for playing "Gotcha" games is long past. This is life-or-death stuff.
You can take it to the bank that the information on his real birth certificate will not match the information on the forged one, and that alone would destroy the Obama legend as well as his credibility.
If he's found to have been hiding something this important from the American public, then the next question, "What else is he hiding," is unavoidable.
And, I fully expect a ripple effect from being implicated in acts of felony fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud .
Once Pandora's box has been opened, Barry will not be able to close it.
How's that for CHANGE?
So you give him as pass like the media (and Republicans) gave Clinton.
It wasn’t acceptable to me then and it’s not acceptable to me now.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.