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Death Toll Rises to 40 this week in Tijuana (Graphic Photos)
NBC ^ | 10/3/2008 | NBC

Posted on 10/03/2008 5:51:55 PM PDT by Ladycalif

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To: Ladycalif

There’s probably some ALT-A defaulted mortgagees in that pile.


41 posted on 10/03/2008 7:00:17 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Cure CINOism- Write in proven conservatives at all levels on the ballot)
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To: Ladycalif

Thanks for posting. Interesting.


42 posted on 10/03/2008 7:00:35 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Nathan Zachary; Liberty Valance
You might be thinking of the Matamoros Devil Murders from the late ‘80s. Mark Kilroy was a college student who was kidnapped and murdered on the way back to Brownsville after a night of drinking on Spring Break.

They were sacrificing people to Satan in return for protection for their drug smuggling and other criminal activities. It was pretty horrible what they did.

In the end they got caught when they simply drove through a roadblock of Mexican police. When the cops chased them down and arrested them they couldn't believe that the cops could actually see them. They thought that all their sacrifices to Satan had made them invisible.

I was living a few miles down the road at the time. My dear old white-haired Mom in NY called me up to make sure that I had enough ammo for my AK-47.

43 posted on 10/03/2008 7:09:42 PM PDT by Brucifer ("The dog ate my copy of the Constitution." G W Bush)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Cut me a break ya had the same thing with PROHIBITION—turf wars etc etc as ya have know with drugs

They ended with the end of prohibition and began again with the WOD


44 posted on 10/03/2008 7:14:47 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: TADSLOS

That’s... well, it’s actually pretty funny. I’m just not sure that I should admit it.


45 posted on 10/03/2008 7:21:26 PM PDT by Brucifer ("The dog ate my copy of the Constitution." G W Bush)
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To: Nathan Zachary

You stated:”This is what happens when drugs are tolerated, almost legal. Turf wars on just who gets to control the business. In Mexico, this includes police and local government corruption.”

Actually all that would be needed to get rid of the turf wars would be to take the money out of the equation. Making them legal would do that.

Cheers,

Easy Does It


46 posted on 10/03/2008 7:27:34 PM PDT by eazdzit (Palin could be our last chance. Elect her now and she will be a gimme in 2012.)
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To: Ladycalif

Mexico has strong gun control and no capital punishment.

Gosh, how is it possible for anyone to commit violence? And how could they possibly get guns? Don’t they know that is illegal?

They must need more pre-school programs there and hybrid cars.


47 posted on 10/03/2008 7:30:56 PM PDT by bitterdfwrepub
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To: Nathan Zachary
Looks like a LACK of a WOD to me. This is what happens when drugs are tolerated, almost legal.

What does "almost legal" mean?

Turf wars on just who gets to control the business.

Correct. Let me ask you a question. If marijuana were regulated along the lines of alcohol, do you think there would be deadly turf wars over control of the business?

48 posted on 10/03/2008 7:47:14 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: B4Ranch
”Family values of a different culture.”

Yes, and our current president says that family values don’t stop at the Rio Grand. I certainly hope he is wrong.

49 posted on 10/03/2008 9:04:02 PM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: Ladycalif

The global War on Drugs continues to produce dividends.


50 posted on 10/03/2008 9:10:43 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: Clintonfatigued

27 bodies found after suspected drug attacks in north Mexico

2 hours ago

TIJUANA, Mexico (AFP) — Mexican police found eight bodies, two of them decapitated, in the northwestern border city of Tijuana, and 19 others after separate attacks further east in the border state of Chihuahua in the past 24 hours.

Border areas where rival drug cartels are battling for control of key routes into the United States are among the worst hit in escalating violence across Mexico this year in which almost 3,500 have died, according to local media.

Attacks have increased despite a government crackdown on drug-related violence including the deployment of 36,000 troops across the country.

Police in Tijuana found five bodies with their hands and feet tied and heads wrapped in tape on Friday, as well as two headless bodies and one other body, making a total of 42 dead in one week.

Gangland-style murders have escalated this week in the city across the border from San Diego, including the discovery of eight bodies Thursday, and a pile of 12 bodies found in a nearby area on Monday, local officials said.

In Chihuahua state a former district attorney and four local police were killed, including a woman, out of a total of 19 dead, officials said Friday.

In state capital Chihuahua, several armed men fired from a car on the former district attorney late Thursday, state authorities said.

“On seeing his attackers he tried to run away, but they followed him and shot him several times in the back,” a state official said.

In Casas Grandes, north of Chihuahua city, police found the bodies of five men, each with a bullet in the head.

Meanwhile in the border city of Ciudad Juarez, where more than 1,000 have been murdered this year, two local police were shot dead as they patrolled a residential area, state authorities said.

Four others, including two police, were also killed there on Thursday, and a former soldier and five others were killed in separate incidents in the past 24 hours.

A US resident of Ciudad Juarez, who last year put up signs calling on hitmen to avoid leaving bodies outside his house, was killed in his home Friday, police said.


51 posted on 10/03/2008 9:17:33 PM PDT by Ladycalif (Free - Ramos and Compean)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Drug possession could be legalized

Oct 3, 2008

MEXICO CITY - Mexican President Felipe Calderón, locked in a battle with drug cartels, wants to legalize the possession of small amounts of cocaine and marijuana, a plan that will likely irk Washington.

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http://www.boston.com/news/world/latinamerica/articles/2008/10/03/drug_possession_could_be_legalized

52 posted on 10/03/2008 9:49:53 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

It started decades before Vincente...


53 posted on 10/03/2008 11:17:49 PM PDT by Jaded ("Eloquence is no substitute for experience" -Joe Lieberman)
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To: Ken H
“MEXICO CITY - Mexican President Felipe Calderón, locked in a battle with drug cartels, wants to legalize the possession of small amounts of cocaine and marijuana, a plan that will likely irk Washington.”

I don't see how that would do anything to reduce the violence between rival cartels in Mexico. Maybe if they actually legalized production of marijuana and only let licensed producers produce it it would take some of the money from the cartels, but the problem is that the vast majority of what they produce is smuggled into the United States. If we legalized marijuana and allowed for regulated production and sales here, that would take billions away from these drug cartels in Mexico and then they would really be killing each other fighting over what's left of the illegal drug trade. In the end I think it would shrink these organizations and make them much less powerful. It would also make it harder for them to sell their cocaine and meth and heroin because right now a really big part of these other drugs go through existing marijuana channels.

Americans consume more marijuana than all other illegal drugs combined. Vast existing marijuana smuggling and distribution networks are convenient conduits through which to move other drugs. Take away these distribution networks and the illegal drug trade becomes more fragmented and it becomes much more difficult for them to find people to sell their drugs. As it is if one of their mid-level cocaine suppliers gets popped, all they have to do is approach people they are supplying marijuana and recruit them to move cocaine too. The mid level suppliers in turn offer these drugs to the people buying smaller amounts of marijuana and then the cartels are able to reach an even broader customer base.

If they didn't have all these marijuana sellers at various levels of the distribution networks to recruit to sell their far more dangerous drugs, it would make it much more difficult for them to get these drugs to end consumers. For one thing, they'll have difficulty finding people who are safe to recruit. Those already buying marijuana from them to sell are a safe bet because they are already illegal drug dealers breaking the law and they will not go to the police and report people who try to recruit them to sell other drugs. Also, these marijuana sellers already have the proven ability to run a actually run a drug distribution enterprise. Without them they'll be forced to recruit people they've had no dealings with who have no track records of success in moving drugs and they'll probably end up with a bunch of addicts in mid level positions who screw everything up.

I am convinced that the marijuana industry is the backbone of the illegal drug trade. If we took the marijuana business away from the drug cartels we would hurt them severely, removing billions from their bottom line and making it more difficult for them to move their far more harmful drugs. If we did that we wouldn't need to legalize any other drugs, and we shouldn't ever legalize drugs like cocaine and meth and heroin because they are just far too addictive and prone to causing problems for society.

54 posted on 10/04/2008 9:12:27 AM PDT by TKDietz
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