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To: JasonInPoland
In fact, history has shown that atheists can form morally upright communities.

Where? I don't recall any examples of that.

It is quite possible that the world can have a prosperous, stable, and morally sound society founded on atheistic principles. The failures of some atheistic nations is not disproof of that.

Failure of *some* atheistic nations? Which atheistic nations have not failed?

46 posted on 10/04/2008 11:58:50 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I think it’s pretty obvious that there are atheistic communities in America. Aren’t something like 16 million Americans atheists?

“Failure of *some* atheistic nations? Which atheistic nations have not failed?”

China is one example. Though, of course, I am not holding China up as an example of moral perfection.

France is way more aggressively secular than the USA, and they’re not so bad off.

My point is, we have no grounds for concluding that all atheistic nations are doomed to immorality. I wouldn’t jump to such conclusions.

Of course, the most notorious atheistic nations have been linked with communism and/or fascism. I think the problems there are with fascism and communism, not atheism. Atheism is perfectly compatible with democracy and capitalism.


48 posted on 10/04/2008 12:14:19 PM PDT by JasonInPoland
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