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'Saint' Cardinal Newman's relics (what's left of them) removed from the grave of his friend.
Daily Telegraph ^ | Telegraph

Posted on 10/04/2008 6:06:57 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan

It was Cardinal Newman's dying wish that he be buried with his closest friend in the grounds of the house they had shared as priests.

But now, nearly 120 years after his death, Britain's most famous convert to Roman Catholicism is to be reinterred in a sarcophagus in preparation for his becoming a saint, leaving the remains of his friend behind.

The decision to separate the remains of John Henry Newman and Ambrose St John has upset figures in the Church and led some to question whether it is embarrassed about their relationship.

They are buried in a grave in a secluded cemetery on the outskirts of Birmingham. But Newman is being moved to the Birmingham Oratory in preparation for his beatification.

Elena Curti, deputy editor of The Tablet – a respected Catholic journal – expressed regret that the cardinal's final request was not being observed.

"It's clearly documented that he wanted to be buried with his close friend and it's a pity that his dying wish is not being respected," she said.

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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
First this number is about one tenth of one percent of the priests who have served in the US in the last 50

The article refutes that

41 posted on 10/05/2008 5:33:12 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: Soliton

You are talking about a few hundred priests out of the 110,000 who have served in the last 50 years.

It has been my experience that those who are obsessed about homosexuality, and make unproven and unproveable charges of this condition tend to be a little light in the loafers themselves (see Mark Foley).

42 posted on 10/05/2008 5:42:36 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I have a general question.

Are Catholics and the Catholic Church itself placing any value on relics today? (My Catholic school nuns and Catholic relatives were when I was a child.)

If the Catholic Church does believe that relics have spiritual potency could someone explain the reasoning behind this belief?

43 posted on 10/05/2008 7:12:12 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

“an idolatrous object of veneration”

I am hearily sick of these constant attacks from the ignorant theological left. Therefore, from now on, I shall respond to them in a manner befitting their utter lack of merit.

I shall respond to all such malign, boneheaded sallies from the theological left (protestants) by asserting, “All protestants, each and every one of them, bugger a little boy every day.”

That will be as true, as charitable, and as honest as the statements to which it responds.

44 posted on 10/05/2008 7:37:53 AM PDT by dsc
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To: Soliton

“the Kansas City Star reported today”

If that rag reported that Sarah Palin had once starred in a donkey show in a Tijuana brothel, you’d be quick to realize they were lying. Yet when they print this garbage, you’re all over it like a duck on a june bug.


45 posted on 10/05/2008 7:43:49 AM PDT by dsc
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To: Clint Williams

“I don’t see this in the Bible”

You don’t see it in the protestant Bible. You do see it in unabridged editions.

46 posted on 10/05/2008 7:50:13 AM PDT by dsc
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