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Media Pass On Big Biden Debate Gaff
MichealTotten.com ^ | 3 OCT 2008 12:04 PM | Michael J. Totten

Posted on 10/05/2008 10:03:48 AM PDT by LowNslow

October 3, 2008

Joe Biden's Alternate Universe

In Thursday night’s vice presidential debate between Senator Joe Biden and Governor Sarah Palin, Biden said the strangest and most ill-informed thing I have ever heard about Lebanon in my life. “When we kicked — along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, “Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t know — if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it.” Now what’s happened? Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the government in the country immediately to the north of Israel.” [Emphasis added.] What on Earth is he talking about? The United States and France may have kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon in an alternate universe, but nothing even remotely like that ever happened in this one. Nobody – nobody – has ever kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon. Not the United States. Not France. Not Israel. And not the Lebanese. Nobody. Joe Biden has literally no idea what he’s talking about. 2008

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: biden; debate; msn
Biden pass - was it because the media believes he is the unquestionable expert on foreign policy?
1 posted on 10/05/2008 10:03:48 AM PDT by LowNslow
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To: LowNslow

And there would be 3 days worth of headlines if PALIN used “IS” instead of “ARE”

God Bless the First amendment, and may God HELP the MSM, they REALLY could use some.


2 posted on 10/05/2008 10:05:54 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's 1984 - to Conservatives a WARNING, to Liberals - a TEXTBOOK)
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To: LowNslow

The media will pass on everything.

Mccain’s only outlets are to make so much hay elsewhere they can’t ignore it like the Swifties

and to bring up the negatives in the debate


3 posted on 10/05/2008 10:07:35 AM PDT by wardaddy (everyone has underestimated the media and their bias, it's killing us)
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To: LowNslow
Nobody – nobody – has ever kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon. Not the United States. Not France. Not Israel. And not the Lebanese. Nobody. Joe Biden has literally no idea what he’s talking about. 2008

But it sure makes him feel good to say it! It makes his point.

Too bad the unbaised moderator didn't follow up. Too bad Palin didn't hit him back.

Perhaps McCain will bring this up next week. Won't hold my breath.

4 posted on 10/05/2008 10:10:19 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: LowNslow
Biden pass - was it because the media believes he is the unquestionable expert on foreign policy?
Biden pass - was it because the MSM and terrorists are on the same side?


5 posted on 10/05/2008 10:10:28 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: LowNslow

Obiden thought it sounded good and the sheople are so stupid they’ll never realize it’s a lie.


6 posted on 10/05/2008 10:10:41 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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7 posted on 10/05/2008 10:47:28 AM PDT by timestax
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To: LowNslow

Yup - one only has to ask what the media response would have been had Palin made this comment to confirm that there is massive media bias.


8 posted on 10/05/2008 11:04:42 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: LowNslow

Back during the last Israel-Hezbolla dustup, I went to the website of a city in So. Lebanon, named (exact spelling dependent on which map you are looking at) Bint Jbeil, Bint Jubayl (etc. - why can’t anyone decide on how these names are spelled!) It was quite illuminating.

This was a city of 40,000(ref.1) commonly referred to as “The Capital of Hezbollah”, and Hezbollah has been there almost as long as Hezbollah has been around, from what I can find out. Hezbollah suffered heavy losses in the 2006 war, and the town was heavily damaged, but as soon as UN forces entered the area (after Israel withdrew), Hezbollah was back in full control again. The Hezzies were never fully driven out: Heck, for all practical purposes, you’d have to occupy the city with a large and very determined force for some time to accomplish that. (Or simply level the entire place.) The surviving Hezzies (most of them) simply laid low or moved a few miles until the IDF left.

The idea that there was a vacuum to be filled, even in just that one small city, is nonsense. The Hezzies were back (promising to rebuild) literally on the heels of the departing Israelis. (Ref.2) Truth be told, even the IDF couldn’t fully control the place

Worse, the idea that anyone and anything short of an all out effort by U.S., British, or Israeli forces, likely with losses exceeding losses in Iraq, would be effective in displacing Hezbollah in Lebanon, and keeping them out, is just ludicrous. Biden thinks NATO could keep ‘em out? Nato? After seeing NATO’s performance in Afghanistan??? Good God, I’d expect such nonsense from Obama, but I thought at least Biden had more sense than that!!! But apparently I was mistaken.

Finally, Biden said in the debate: “I said and Barack said, “Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t know — if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it.”

Ok, Joe. WHEN specifically did you, and when did Obama, make this recommendation? When, where, and to whom?

Ref 1) Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bint_Jbeil

Ref 2) Times story about the aftermath of the war, in Bint Jbeil:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/world/middleeast/22lebanon.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Ref 3) Bint Jbeil website:
http://www.bintjbeil.com/index.en.html
(It also irritated me immensley, back in ‘06, that the MSM kept referring to a city of 40,000, Hezzie through and through, as a “village”, and then criticized the IDF for not being able to control it with a small # of soldiers. Of course, I notice on their website that Bint Jbeil is also referred to as a village there - no doubt to reinforce the notion that this little heroic village stood up to the powerful IDF!


9 posted on 10/05/2008 12:20:50 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: LowNslow

When Biden uttered that lie and Palin didn’t respond, I let out groan. I’m not an expert on the situation, but I knew we didn’t kick Hezbollah out of Lebanon. None of Biden’s lies will be challenged in the mainstream media.


10 posted on 10/05/2008 1:56:08 PM PDT by driftless2
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