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The Doctors Who Are Redefining Life and Death
WashingtonPost.com ^ | Oct. 5, 2008 | William Saletan

Posted on 10/05/2008 5:43:27 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah

Think being the next president would be a brutal job? Imagine being a transplant surgeon. You can't tell the parents of a dying kid when to pull the plug, but you have to be there, ready, the minute he expires. You have to wait until he's dead, but not so long that his organs become useless. You can give him drugs to keep his organs healthy, but you mustn't technically revive him. And you can't remove and restart his heart until it's been declared kaput.

Pick up a recent issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, and you'll see the far edge of this tortured world. In the journal, doctors at Children's Hospital in Denver describe how they removed hearts from infants 75 seconds after they stopped. The infants were declared dead of heart failure, even as their hearts, in new bodies, resumed ticking.

Is this wrong? We like to think that moral lines are fixed and clear: My heart is mine, not yours, and you can't have it till I'm dead. But in medicine, lines move. "Dead" means irreversibly stopped, and stoppages are increasingly reversible. And when life support ends, says one bioethicist, "not using viable organs wastes precious life-saving resources" and "costs the lives of other babies." Failure to take body parts looks like lethal negligence.

How can we get more organs? By redefining death. First we coined "brain death," which let us take organs from people on ventilators. Then we proposed organ retrieval even if non-conscious brain functions persisted. Now we have "donation after cardiac death," the rule applied in Denver, which permits harvesting based on heart, rather than brain, stoppage.

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KEYWORDS: bioethics; civilrights; cultureofdeath; deathindustry; euthenasia; geneticcannibalism; healthcarerationing; humanrights; organdonors; organharvesting; organsales; righttolife
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So how can death be declared based on irreversible heart stoppage when the plan is to restart that heart in a new body? Boucek offers two answers. First, even if the heart resumes pumping in a new body, it couldn't have done so in the old one. (That used to be true, but today, hearts can be restarted by external stimulation well after two or even five minutes.) Second, Boucek says the heart is dead because the baby's parents have decided not to permit resuscitation. In other words, each family decides when its loved one is dead. In a commentary attached to the Denver report, another ethicist proposes extending this idea -- letting each family decide not just whether to resuscitate but also at what point organs can be harvested. Brain death? Cardiac death? Persistent vegetative state? Death is whatever you say it is.

Robert Truog, an ethicist who supports the Denver protocol, says this redefinition of death has gone too far. Let's accept that we're taking organs from living people and causing death in the process, he argues. This is ethical as long as the patient has "devastating neurologic injury" and has provided, through advance directive or a surrogate, informed consent to be terminated this way. We already let surrogates authorize removal of life support, he notes. Why not treat donations similarly? Traditional safeguards, such as the separation of the transplant team from the patient's medical team, will prevent abuse. And the public will accept the new policy since surveys suggest we're not hung up on whether the donor is dead.

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1 posted on 10/05/2008 5:43:28 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Perfect example of why I no longer sign an organ donor card.


2 posted on 10/05/2008 5:45:12 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Doctors Who Are Redefining Life and Death

Not the Doctor Who I was expecting. :)

3 posted on 10/05/2008 5:46:56 PM PDT by CE2949BB (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: redgolum
And the public will accept the new policy since surveys suggest we're not hung up on whether the donor is dead.

Give us Barabbas!

4 posted on 10/05/2008 5:48:23 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

For guidance concerning medical ethical issues please go here: http://www.cathmed.org/. We have founded a local guild in my diocese and I will be attending the national meeting on Tuesday.


5 posted on 10/05/2008 5:48:33 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: CE2949BB
Ditto:

These are the Doctors Who

6 posted on 10/05/2008 5:48:44 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter. Before the late bell. When I close the door.)
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To: wagglebee; cpforlife.org

Ping!


7 posted on 10/05/2008 5:49:12 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: redgolum

My Florida drivers license has “organ donor” on it. I think when I get it renewed I am going to reverse that.


8 posted on 10/05/2008 5:49:48 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

This has been a frequent topic on the National Catholic Bioethics Center and the Catholic Medical Association.

The last time I got my driver’s license renewed, I removed the Donor option and it is because of the problems stated in this article. I also rewrote my Will in accordance with the documents available from the NCBC for a modest fee. The document is legal in all states.

I would readily volunteer to give bone marrow or a kidney to someone who needs these if I prove a match. The harvest technique described here has gone too far, however.

F


9 posted on 10/05/2008 5:49:57 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
My daughter was in a near fatal auto accident 2 yrs ago and that first night while she was still on life support, I dreaded the sight of a teams of doctors approaching us. I was afraid I would hear the words 'donate her organs'. I praise God she did pull through. And all the glory goes to Him. It was a miracle. She's doing wonderfully now. She's picked right up with her life after extensive rehab. But, I thought to myself afterward, what would have happened if she had checked the organ donor box on her license? No one expected her to make it that night. No one. None of the specialilsts. They actually were ready to declare her DOA. Her number slipped to two or three by the time they got her to the hospitial, which is almost dead. What if they would have pulled the plug for her organs?

I don't want to sound alarmist or selfish, but think twice before you allow your kids or yourself to check the organ donor box.

10 posted on 10/05/2008 5:58:49 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("Stand up, Chuck!")
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To: nickcarraway

Ping!


11 posted on 10/05/2008 6:03:27 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: Frank Sheed

I removed my donor sticker years ago based on the advice of a friend who had heard and seen a few unsavory things at the county hospital.


12 posted on 10/05/2008 6:05:03 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: FrdmLvr

You are referring to a 2 or 3 on the coma scale? Your daughter is very lucky.


13 posted on 10/05/2008 6:06:24 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

I think it’s called the Glasgow scale.


14 posted on 10/05/2008 6:10:31 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("Stand up, Chuck!")
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To: yarddog

When my license was renewed they automatically kept the “organ donor” notation.....I’ve BLOTTED it out!!!! I’m not waiting for renewal, although, now I have to get a new license, as I’m in another state, Oregon, where they really believe in killing quickly.


15 posted on 10/05/2008 6:19:56 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Palin has run a state, town and fishing operation. Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth.(Steyn)
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To: FrdmLvr
I've been in contact with a family who lost their son to an accident. The young man was in the hospital, the parents rather confused about the medical procedures being discussed, and certainly in shock. The Organ Team spoke to the husband while he was away from his wife and he signed the paperwork for donation. The wife feels this was deliberate. She believes her son was allowed to die to get his organs.

It is hard enough to deal with the death of your child, but to also question whether you were manipulated or lied to by medical people you trusted is horrific.

16 posted on 10/05/2008 6:43:27 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: goodnesswins

Yes, Oregon is about as far left as they get, and we are all just tissue anyway! Right?
I am glad that when I got my license I was too young to donate organs.


17 posted on 10/05/2008 6:46:22 PM PDT by A kid with a brain (America needs to drill the on our ground and stop buying our oil from China!)
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To: Valpal1

Ping. Our world is failing.


18 posted on 10/05/2008 6:49:00 PM PDT by A kid with a brain (America needs to drill the on our ground and stop buying our oil from China!)
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To: Dianna

My heart breaks for this family. I fully understand the state of mind they were in at that desperate time. This does not seem ethical in any way.


19 posted on 10/05/2008 7:01:13 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("Stand up, Chuck!")
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To: A kid with a brain

As a part of the medical community, do not check the donor box on your license.


20 posted on 10/05/2008 7:02:26 PM PDT by Chickensoup ('08 VOTING for the SUPREME COURT that will be BEST for my FAMILY and voting for SARAH PALIN!!!)
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