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Panic: S&P down over 6%, Dow down over 5%
Bloomberg Terminal | 10/6/08 | Me

Posted on 10/06/2008 7:45:09 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo

Looking at hugh panic in global mkts right now. This is vey series.

Australian dollar off almost 8.6% on the day against the USD. One bank said they are seeing literally NO BIDS in the Australian dollar, which is huge considering that you can usually trade several million with the click of a mouse.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: australian; bailout; djia; moneylist; stockmarket; votingwithpocketbook
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To: jddqr

It definitely signaled his decline in the opinion polls.


141 posted on 10/06/2008 8:21:09 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Hey B. Hussein, are you going to prosecute me now?)
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To: NVDave
McCain clearly is out of his depth on this issue and just hasn’t a clue how to respond.

And Obama does??! That's not your implication, is it?

I doubt if the man could balance a checkbook. An economist he ain't.

142 posted on 10/06/2008 8:21:32 AM PDT by grellis (SISTERHOOD OF SARAH God. Guns. Hockey.)
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To: Thane_Banquo
PAULSON'S THEFT:

Stealing from Main Street, giving to Wall Street.

What, removing capital from, and moving risk to the blameless didn't work?

Horrors.

Who ya gonna steal from next, Paulson?

143 posted on 10/06/2008 8:21:42 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bushonomics: Privatize Gains, Socialize Losses......."PAULSON'S THEFT")
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To: Future Snake Eater

I think this may be the year that the world learns the dangers of deficit spending and run-away credit.


144 posted on 10/06/2008 8:22:28 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: ncalburt

McCain and especially Bush wanted this. If Bush didn’t want it, he has the veto pen (well, we think he does anyway). He should have vetoed it and allowed them to attempt an override. Yes, Congress (both houses) is controlled by the Dems, but McCain went in hook, line and sinker as did Barak Hussein Obama.


145 posted on 10/06/2008 8:22:53 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

S&P 500 has broken support at 1080 level and going down. Next stop is 960 level. I would like to see it stop there but good chance it goes to 770 level where it bottomed in 2002.


146 posted on 10/06/2008 8:23:47 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Boiling Pots

It’s so ironic.


147 posted on 10/06/2008 8:24:08 AM PDT by Huck ("Lying rides upon debt's back." --Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Is this the actual headline?


148 posted on 10/06/2008 8:24:09 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Thane_Banquo
Shades of Oct 1987.


Thane_Banquo, I'm not challenging you on your statement...
just putting out my impressions for further discussion and
(OUCH!!!) dissection by the FR forum.

I'm no expert...
But wasn't Oct. 1987 a "shock to the system" of relatively short
duration?

The current debacle seems to be a much more prolonged and miserable
event.

My inexpert thought is that Oct. 1987 was like a heart attack:
a shocking episode that the patient recovered from fairly fastly
to modest health.

Today is more like many cancers: diagnosis, prolonged sickeness
during diagnosis and treatment...and dealing with metasteses (sp?)
while recovery and "five-year survival" is still an open question.

I'm pray that today is when the last big holders are being
"shaken out of the system" and we can hit a baseline.

Even if there will be a period of meandering around an average
"low" and then an eventual recovery (even if it takes a year or two).
149 posted on 10/06/2008 8:24:14 AM PDT by VOA
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To: grellis

McCain clearly is out of his depth on this issue and just hasn’t a clue how to respond.
And Obama does??! That’s not your implication, is it?

I doubt if the man could balance a checkbook. An economist he ain’t.

_______________________

McCain, right or wrong, has the burden of demonstrating that Obama will be worse for the economy than he would be.


150 posted on 10/06/2008 8:24:46 AM PDT by Rumierules
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To: Boiling Pots
It definitely signaled his decline in the opinion polls.

Ain't much yu can really do when the VAST majority of Americans don't even know how the government works

And everybody thinks there is some law of physics that says you have to make $$$ in the market
151 posted on 10/06/2008 8:24:52 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: sarasota

My headline.


152 posted on 10/06/2008 8:25:00 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ("They aren't people! They're the ACLU!" - General Patton in An American Carol)
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To: Thane_Banquo
Is there any way to reduce the US dependency on foreign markets, and visa-versa?? Global trade is OK as long as it is fair both ways, but the financial institutions linkage to the degree they seem to be, is hard to swallow.
153 posted on 10/06/2008 8:25:18 AM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: listenhillary

The BUsh WH were too stupid to realize that Soros and Paulson had set this up for the Dems.
The media would have crucified McCain if he had said no the the bailout.
He would had been blamed for today’s mess.
Bush fell for the Paulson scam.
Paulson tried to give away Wachovia to his Dem buddy at Citi !
Paulson worked at JP Morgan , he knew they set Up Lehamn Bros and there was no crisis.


154 posted on 10/06/2008 8:25:34 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Great pont. Obama has promised to raise taxes and after he wins the election, we should see solid profit taking to prevent paying his higher capital gains taxes, assuming of course that there are profits left to take.


155 posted on 10/06/2008 8:25:46 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: VOA

A recovery “in a year or two”? Before all this came into play, Wells Fargo was giving the economy 5-10 years to recover. I wonder what they would say today? Anyone?


156 posted on 10/06/2008 8:26:56 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: ncalburt
WHY the hell are blaming McCain or Bush.

Because the bailout is not going to work. It didn't do a damn thing to save the markets from crashing. McCain should have voted against it. It sells our country to the same people who ran it into the ground.

Congress is controlled by the Democrats and Obama !

Bush proposed the crap sandwich and McCain voted for it. I can't help it if McCain and Bush are both politically tone deaf.

Why are you spreading these LIES ??? What is your agenda ? To get Obama elected ?

What lies? That the bailout didn't work and that McCain supported it and Bush proposed it? THOSE LIES?

Your problem is that you can't handle the truth.

157 posted on 10/06/2008 8:27:07 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: mlocher
I sure am glad that we spent $850 Billion to solve this problem.

FWIW, that's just the allocation; nobody's spent anything yet... I doubt there will be any large-scale gov't buying unless and until the markets and banks stabilize at some level.

158 posted on 10/06/2008 8:27:18 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: grellis

No, Obama hasn’t a clue either.

But the way elections work, the team who was on the watch when something like this occurs gets thrown out.

McCain is now fighting a huge headwind, and because he has no natural ability to talk finance or money, he’s going to be crushed as a result of people’s anger at the fact that a Republican (a very incompetent Republican) was in the White House when the market went down this hard.

McCain would need to have some financial brilliance of his own to shine above Obama and give people confidence that “he has a plan, he has experience, he can make it work.” McCain would do well to talk about who he has in mind for SecTreas - right now. But I’ll bet he has no clue who he wants, or what he wants.

The last thing we need now is an economist. What we need is someone like Romney - a business leader with a successful track record - stepping up and saying “OK, I’ve been talking to a number of business leaders, and this is what we’re going to do...”


159 posted on 10/06/2008 8:27:21 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

How much of this sell-off is the expectation that a major, long term recession is now inevitable, which now seems to be a near certainty?
Everyone selling what they have now, with the expectation that the S&P and Dow are heading south and will stay there for a long time.


160 posted on 10/06/2008 8:27:26 AM PDT by Newtoidaho (Liberals to America: "Drop dead!")
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