Posted on 10/06/2008 4:30:11 PM PDT by NoobRep
Obviously Obama has something to hide otherwise he could make this go away real fast by simply producing a valid birth certificate. Plus he could make everyone involved look foolish and say it’s further proof that he’s being picked on.
In most cases, discovery may be stayed at the trial court's discretion while a motion to dismiss for lack of standing is filed.
Ordinarily it saves time and burdensome, useless discovery if the plaintiff has no standing.
BUT . . . sometimes common sense has to trump lawyer-think. The political repercussions of not producing the COLB are great. Ditto of getting this case dismissed on a technicality.
That's ASSUMING that his COLB wasn't issued in Kenya or somewhere . . . . or that it exists at all.
I think we are missing the real rub here>
I read the entire brief last night it it appears that not only is Mr. Berg asking for a long form birth certificate he is also asking for his passport. He asserts that BO was born in Kenya, his mother could not have claimed him as a citizen based on a law that he had to have lived in the US fo 5 years after her 14th birthday. BO’s mom divorced his real dad and married an Indonesian and moved to Indonesia. He attended school there and was ADOPTED by his father and given his sur name which makes him a citizen of Indonesia based on both US and Indonesian law. He then returned to the US to live with his grandparents as an ILLEGAL ALIEN. He also claims that he traveled to Pakistan in the early 80’s on his Indonesian Citizen issued passport.
I don’t think it’s the brith certificate BO doesn’t want to hand over. The MSM is trying to make people believe that is what it’s about.
Mr. Berg is also suing BO, The DNC, and the FED for defrauding American citizens out of $400 million dollars for mounting an illegal presidential campaign.
Maybe his Columbia University entrance papers somehow reference he was born in Kenya...not the U.S.A.
To me it’s an important constitutional issue. What happens if he wins and later admits that he isn’t an American born citizen?
It’s a precedent we really don’t want to set.
Berg feels that Surrick will rule against Obama and the DNC. And even if he doesn’t, he feels the Supreme Court will hear it.
"The Constitution sets qualifications for the president, and then the people decide who they think would be the better president".
My husband had to order his the other day from OK. Got it in very short order for $10.
Some 527 will pick this up in battleground states. Why won’t Obama show anyone his birth certificate? What is he hiding? Was he really born in Hawaii like he claims?
Obama has a passport,doesn’t he? How would he get one without proof of citizenship? Just wondering out loud.
Maybe they want a big deal to be made of this. Then he produces the documents and his folks crow about everyone picking on Barry. The when something really significant is stumbled upon they can defuse it and say its more of the same. Just a guess.
It sounds like Joe Biden’s wife is measuring the curtains in the White House. Isn’t fate amazing. Biden may be like Gerald Ford and someone who serves as President without ever being elected.
Is there any advantage for Obama to not produce the required document(s) NOW?
It doesn't take a legal mind. I think he probably is a US citizen but there is something embarassing on his birth certificate. There are many possibilities.
My theory is that his real BC shows his father's race to be ARAB. Obama's father was only fractionally black, he was 87.5% Arab and 12.5% black (which is why he has an Arab name). That makes Obama only 6% black, 43% Arab and 50% white. By US definitions therefore he is not black, he's under the legal threshhold. For example this means Obama was lying when he called himself the first Black president of the harvard law review.
Now before anyone calls me a racist for pointing this out, I will retort that a couple of million black people in the USA are clearly voting for Obama precisely because they believe he is black. IF it turns out he is really an Arab legally, he may well lose many of their votes. If his birth certificate makes it clear his father was an Arab, that could be game, set, match.
You can be a citizen without being a natural born citizen the constitution requires for the POTUS. No one questions that he is a citizen. He had to get over that hurdle to be a Senator.
Ian Pundit gave Berg radio time and Berg embarrassed himself. If Sean gives him face time on FOX he better be more prepared.
If he wins and later admits he isn’t American born citizen than he needs to resign and we are stuck with President Joe Biden. The Democrat Party has a lot to gain on getting Obama elected no matter what scandals come up in four years. I think the MSM will like the ratings they get with Clinton Era scandals going on for 4 years.
Don’t believe the press. It’s not just his birth certificate. Please read my comment 44.
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