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Obama outscores McCain in veterans’ group’s report card (Another Phony Leftist Group)
http://thehill.com ^ | 10/07/08 | By Roxana Tiron

Posted on 10/07/2008 9:39:08 AM PDT by Maelstorm

Barack Obama outscored his Republican rival, Vietnam veteran John McCain, in a report card issued by an influential, nonpartisan veterans’ group.

The Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA’s) Action Fund gave the Arizona senator a “D” as part of its congressional report card. Obama received a “B” from the group.

McCain is among three senators who scored a “D.” Only one senator, Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), received an “F.”

McCain — a former Navy officer and prisoner of war — and Obama, who has not served, have made military and veterans’ issues central to their campaign as they try to show voters who would be a stronger advocate for those who have fought in two wars in the last seven years.

Much of IAVA’s scoring revolves around legislation to boost education benefits for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans, known as the “Post 9/11 GI Bill: Fair Education Benefits for Veterans.” The bill was the brainchild of Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) and garnered wide sponsorship throughout the upper chamber.

Because of campaigning, McCain missed six votes on the issues the group rated, out of which four were the votes regarding the GI Bill.

The maximum of points for an “A+” in the Senate is 11. McCain received a total of three. IAVA gave two points to those who co-sponsored the GI Bill — its main priority for 2008.

McCain did not sponsor that bill, but sponsored a competing bill with Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Richard Burr (R-N.C). One major aspect of the McCain-sponsored bill was the ability for veterans to transfer educational credits to their spouses and children. Ultimately, the transferability option was included in Webb’s GI overhaul bill. As a result, McCain issued strong support for the bill, but was not present at the final vote.

IAVA did not credit McCain for the bill he sponsored with Graham and Burr because the group opposed it and threw its full support behind Webb’s bill.

“Sen. McCain has been endorsed by 21 past National Commanders of the American Legion, the largest veterans’ organization in America, and the Veterans of Foreign Wars, the largest organization of combat veterans in America,” said Lang Sias, national veterans director on McCain’s campaign. “Sen. McCain is proud of having fought hard to ensure that an extremely high priority for career service members — the freedom to transfer their education benefits to their spouse or their children — was included in the final version of the GI Bill. John McCain made the GI Bill better for military families and veterans.”

Despite being a co-sponsor of the GI Bill, Obama did not score a particularly high mark, but well above McCain. IAVA gave Obama a “B,” or a total of seven points. Obama, who like McCain has been on the campaign trail, missed four votes on issues the group rated. One of those votes was a procedural vote regarding the veterans’ education bill. Obama was present for the other three votes regarding the bill, including final passage.

Obama’s running mate, Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.), also scored a “B.” He missed three votes that coincided with campaigning during the primaries, when Biden himself was a presidential candidate.

“Sen. Obama has a long record of supporting our veterans and honoring the sacred trust with our veterans and military families. The fact that IAVA has recognized his unending support is a great tribute,” said Obama national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi. “If he is fortunate enough to be elected in November, veterans can rest assured knowing that he will fight for them every day as president.”

“We think attendance is important,” said Paul Rieckhoff, IAVA executive director of the scoring. “Lawmakers have to put the money where their mouth is. You can’t support the troops if you do not vote on the key issues.”

IAVA is officially releasing its congressional report card Tuesday, the same day Obama and McCain are going into another presidential debate. Rieckhoff said the release was planned that way to make veterans’ issues part of Tuesday’s debate, because none of the candidates approached that topic in detail.

“We hope that it lets them know that people are watching and that veterans are watching,” he said in an interview. “Whoever the president is, they have a huge challenge ahead with veterans’ issues. These guys have a chance to turn the page.”

In the Senate scoring, IAVA focused on nine legislative actions: boosting of funding for veterans’ healthcare in 2007 and 2008; more money for Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles, known as MRAPs, for troops fighting in Iraq; expanded veterans’ benefits in 2007; 2008 legislation dealing with adaptive housing for disabled veterans, disability claims processing and education benefits for apprenticeships and on-the-job training; stopping the McCain-sponsored competing GI bill; and three votes on the Webb-sponsored GI Bill.

Among the Senate’s co-sponsors of the education benefits overhaul are several who received an “A+” for their support of veterans. Those members not only co-sponsored the landmark education bill, but also voted in favor of all the other legislation on IAVA’s agenda. Among those who received an “A+” are: Webb, Susan Collins (R-Maine), who is facing a tough reelection campaign, Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Harry Reid (D-Nev.), the Senate majority leader, Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii) and Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.).

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), a former candidate for president, scored an “A.” So did retiring Sens. John Warner (R-Va.), who was pivotal in negotiations on the GI Bill, and Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), an original co-sponsor of the bill, as well as Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Kit Bond (R-Mo.) and Gordon Smith (R-Ore.).

In the House, 249 lawmakers received an “A” or “A+” for voting on 13 bills relating to veterans issues. Many of the freshman and vulnerable Democrats have received an “A+.” Democrats, and particularly the freshmen, have made it a key point to prove that their party is strong on national security. Among those vulnerables receiving an A+ are Reps. Chris Carney (D-Pa.), Patrick Murphy (D-Pa.), Paul Kanjorski (D-Pa.), Carol Shea-Porter (D-N.H.) and Nancy Boyda (D-Kan.). Another Democratic vulnerable, Rep. Nick Lampson (Texas), received a “B.”

Several vulnerable Republican members earned top grades, but many of them have also scored “B’s.” Among them, Reps. Robin Hayes (N.C.), Christopher Shays (Conn.), Randy Kuhl (N.Y.) and Ric Keller (Fla.) stand out with an “A.” Reps. Don Young (R-Alaska) and Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo.) received a “B,” as did Reps. James Walsh (R-N.Y.) and Steve Chabot (R-Ohio).

Reps. John Campbell (R-Calif.), Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.), John Duncan Jr. (R-Tenn.) and Chris Cannon (R-Utah) scored a “D.” Rep Ron Paul (R-Texas) scored the only “F.”

IAVA has about 105,000 members and makes no political contributions or endorsements.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: communityofveterans; iava; obama; philcarter
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To: Maelstorm
IAVA has about 105,000 members

If you look at IAVA's site, you'll notice that being an actual veteran is not a prerequisite for membership. Cute, eh?

Rieckhoff went to Amherst, where he was student body President, did one tour in Iraq early in the war (not in a particularly hazardous area, IIRC), and then came back and started this anti-Republican group, IAVA. After offering the Democratic response to one of W's State of the Union addresses. I don't think he mentioned cutting off eyes and ears, or Jenjiss Khan, but I'm sure you see a parallel.

This alleged veterans' group (you won't see any stats on how many of his members really are vets) is non-partisan like Katie Couric. For instance, before the surge, they criticized the war strategy, saying there weren't enough troops. The next month, when the surge was announced, they opposed it, saying adding more troops wouldn't do any good.

21 posted on 10/07/2008 10:32:21 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Maelstorm; All

The fact of the matter is — these guy’s are a very cheap imitation knock off of the real thing —

http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/

The IAVA are essentially a shell/front for a group of lawyers assembled to rally veterans around the DNC...they are an absolute joke. Pay no attention to them.

However, Vets for Freedom...these guy’s are the real deal and are deserving of your time and attention.

God Bless Vets for Freedom — they are doing great work for America’s Veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan.


22 posted on 10/07/2008 10:56:51 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thanks for the Obama ratings and record. Posted it here:

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/


23 posted on 10/07/2008 12:12:35 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: areukiddingme1

This sleazy organization is now advertising heavily in the poorer areas of Fresno. My husband got curious about them and asked me what I thought. The news media is all rah-rah about them but the milblogs are angry at these posers.


24 posted on 10/03/2009 10:39:01 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Maelstorm

There is an advertising campaign on right now for an organization called IAVA. Its website is given as CommunityOfVeterans.org. It sounds very high minded.

But it was started as an organization called “Operation Truth” during 2004 as part of the Kerry campaign.

This organization is funded by George Soros and is designed to make veterans think they are victimized by the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and persuade them of marxist thought. They claim to be non-partisan, but if they are, why were all the candidates they supported for election to federal office in 2006 Democrats?

Now they are advertising on Glenn Beck’s show. (Or the Ad Council is running their crap on Fox News.)

My husband saw a bunch of their billboards in the poorer area of Fresno and started wondering what was going on. I started researching and had to dig, but when you finally get to the military blogs, they are very aware of these phonies (and very angry about it).

This campaign is linked to the White House through a man named Phil Carter. Here is what BlackFive said about this guy:

...IAVA... lists Phil Carter, of Intel Dump, as a Founder. We took issue with Phil, as Director of Veterans for Obama, passing off the IAVA scorecard without disclosing that he is a Founder of the IAVA. The scorecard is clearly slanted in favor of Democrats and Senator Obama.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2008/10/time-for-honest.html

Here’s how Phil Carter came to work in the White House:

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=8453

Phil Carter was a lawyer and a Washington Post columnist before getting called up to the Obama campaign as the candidate’s veteran adviser. [He filed an amicus brief in Hamden vs. Rumsfeld!]

“If you read our posts last Fall about Carter and his connections to both the campaign and the IAVA, you already know that IAVA and Phil Carter colluded to split veterans and active duty service members from the McCain campaign by ginning up a phony “scorecard” that made it appear that politicians like Duncan Hunter had a worse record of support than Baghdad Jim McDermott. Well, that worked well for Carter, because he’s now the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Detainee Affairs.”

This issue is all over the military blogs.

Some of Carter’s articles for the Washington Post:

Petraeus Overplays His Hand
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/inteldump/2008/04/the_reality_is_it_is_hard_in_i.html

Irrelevant Exuberance - Why the latest good news from Iraq doesn’t matter.
http://www.slate.com/id/2171510/

The Road to Abu Ghraib
The biggest scandal of the Bush administration began at the top.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0411.carter.html

The Case for the Draft
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0503.carter.html
More from the MilBlogs:

http://www.snooperreport.com/snooper-report/2009/4/10/copy-cat-frauds-of-the-iava.html

http://www.thevfw.blogspot.com/2009/05/iava-chief-rieckhoff-disses-vietnam.html

I found out from Google that the co-founder Paul Rieckhoff was on Rachel Maddow’s show this year:
‘The Rachel Maddow Show’ for February 26, 2009 - Rachel Maddow ...
...Coming up: Paul Rieckhoff from Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America will join us. ..... Number two, check out IAVA’s “CommunityofVeterans.org. ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/.../msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/

I hope Fox can refuse to air these ads. This campaign is reprehensible.


25 posted on 10/03/2009 10:41:56 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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