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Obama Won't Play Well In The Northeast ["stealth-voting block that will shock"]
thebulletin.us ^ | October 08, 2008 | Frank Diamond

Posted on 10/08/2008 1:12:20 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

He's Philadelphia born and raised, a resident of the Northeast. He's 51-years-old and he's never voted for a Republican. Not once. He's also a union plumber and that's why he doesn't want his named used. Leadership is lobbying the rank-and-file hard to vote for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama. If my friend the plumber publicly states that he intends to vote for Sen. John McCain instead, he'll hear about it.

"I can't bring myself to vote for somebody whose wife has never been proud of America," he says, alluding to a putdown of our country uttered by Michelle Obama. "McCain's a war hero. This other guy's a show pony."

The plumber mostly keeps his feelings to himself, perhaps close family members might know. Maybe not. They'd be shocked. The Messiah has blown dust into the eyes of many young people and maybe the plumber's nephews and nieces overlook Barack "the Baby-Killer's" record and hard-left political leanings.

You really can't blame young adults for not knowing. The media has made it a point not to inform them of Sen. Obama's slurs against our fighting men and women, and opposition to a bill that would have protected infants who survive an abortion. Maybe they've heard (or maybe not) about Sen. Obama's close ties with a man, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who sits right up there with David Duke on the list of America's most infamous racists. Rev. Wright performed the ceremonies when Sen. Obama got married and the senator's daughters were baptized.

The plumber knows all about it. He makes it a point to keep informed, which means digging beneath what the mainstream media shovels your way. The plumber also knows the risk of stating publicly in a city that's overwhelmingly Democrat, among friends and family who've never voted Republican, that you don't want Sen. Obama to win.

"Oh, then you're a racist," the plumber says with a shrug, noting that Sen. Obama himself has none too subtly attempted to slur critics with that label. "My vote has nothing to do with race. What has this guy ever done?"

The plumber would never tell any pollster his intentions. It's nobody's business but his. There's no way of knowing how many people in the Northeast are keeping their opinions about this election to themselves.

As of this writing, Sen. Obama leads in the polls. How accurate is that? During the primaries Sen. Obama's margin of victory had often been overestimated. Pundits write that off to people in exit interviews simply lying for fear of appearing racist. There may be something to that. But not wanting to appear racist is not the same thing as actually being racist. My friend the plumber isn't a racist. He isn't a fool either. He knows the difference between celebrity and authenticity.

I'm betting that there are a lot of people like my friend the plumber, representing a stealth-voting block that will shock prognosticators on Nov. 4. That block will make itself known in the Northeast. Nearly 25 years ago I got my first job in newspapers at the Northeast Times. Back then many in the Northeast wanted to secede from the rest of Philadelphia and call themselves Liberty County.

I think that movement resurfaces over the years, but in many ways the Northeast is in constant revolt against the rest of the city. The section is full of people like my friend the plumber. It is full of nurses, firefighters, cops, carpenters, teachers, small-business owners, car salesmen, factory workers and bus drivers. They are people from blue-collar backgrounds who are predisposed to vote for the Democrat. They are people like the plumber who can hardly believe that this year, for the very first time in their lives, they are going to vote for a Republican presidential candidate. Shhh! Don't tell anyone.

The media charges that they are doing this because of race, in an effort to shame these people into voting for Sen. Obama. They don't know these people. That sort of cheap ploy just makes them stand their ground. They won't back down, just as Sen. McCain didn't back down all those years ago in a prison hell-hole. These people put country above political correctness. Three cheers for Liberty County!


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1 posted on 10/08/2008 1:12:21 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 10/08/2008 1:15:30 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I really hope the Union Plumber is right...and that there are more out there like him.


3 posted on 10/08/2008 1:15:42 AM PDT by T Lady (The Mainstream Media: Public Enemy #1)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"The One" going down in flames


4 posted on 10/08/2008 1:18:39 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Sarah Palin reminds me of the story about David and Goliath)
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To: T Lady
I hope so, also.

I want Sarah in mainstream politics so that she can take out the trash.

Washington DC is a complete and total cesspool of corruption, and I want to see it completely renovated.

5 posted on 10/08/2008 1:22:03 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"I can't bring myself to vote for somebody whose wife has never been proud of America," he says, alluding to a putdown of our country uttered by Michelle Obama. "McCain's a war hero. This other guy's a show pony."

Amen to that.

6 posted on 10/08/2008 1:24:22 AM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I wonder how many union workers have had to pick up the slack and carry the water for poorly performing minority workers who are never fired or even disciplined. Why would these people vote for a man that attended a church for 20 years preaching black liberation theology?


7 posted on 10/08/2008 1:31:36 AM PDT by Need4Truth
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Hopefully something positive will happen with the polls. They seem to be trending up in recent days ~ much credit going to Palin on the stump ~ despite what I gather to be a debate that was not necessarily what conservatives were hoping for.

I think this phenom of the “stealth northeast voter” has some potential, but I certainly don’t rest easy at night hanging my hat on the notion. I was banking on such a showing in PA. Of course, I’m also banking on unprecidented voter fraud by the Dems in Pittsburg and Philadelphia.


8 posted on 10/08/2008 1:32:26 AM PDT by incredulous joe (George Soros; Owner Democratic Party)
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To: Need4Truth

I have no love for these voters. I think they’re garbage.

They have continuously and blindly voted for representatives that are the very worst in the nation, they’ve voted for policies in public schools that hurt their children and within their unions they have voted themselves out of their own jobs.

Now they’re voting for our guy on the basis of his pigmentation ~ sorry if I can’t put a lot faith in these racists.

Hey, if they didn’t like affirmative action and continued to vote Dem for 20 years they are going to get a real kick out of Barry’s sliding mortgage scale ruler!!


9 posted on 10/08/2008 1:41:34 AM PDT by incredulous joe (George Soros; Owner Democratic Party)
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To: incredulous joe

“I have no love for these voters. I think they’re garbage.

They have continuously and blindly voted for representatives that are the very worst in the nation, they’ve voted for policies in public schools that hurt their children and within their unions they have voted themselves out of their own jobs.

Now they’re voting for our guy on the basis of his pigmentation ~ sorry if I can’t put a lot faith in these racists.”

Wow, you sound like a troll. At least some dems are waking up and it has nothing to do with race! Obama is a fraud!


10 posted on 10/08/2008 1:52:52 AM PDT by DoneWithDems
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I agree that there is a lot of stealth voting that will occur.

In the booth, confronted with the actual names on the ballot, decisions will be made that have nothing to do with the policies or campaigns of the candidates.

It will come down to the known vs. the unknown, black vs. white, an intrigueing woman vs. DC politicians.

McCain prevails, barely


11 posted on 10/08/2008 1:53:16 AM PDT by Abe XVI
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To: Berlin_Freeper

A friend of ours lives in Chicago, is Jewish and is a die-hard Dem.

He DESPISES Zero and will not vote for him.

[he considers him a Trojan Muzzie]


12 posted on 10/08/2008 1:57:04 AM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult is the soundtrack to the Revolution.)
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To: incredulous joe

Locally, they are running out of McCain/Palin yard signs and stickers so often they’re now getting them directly from the printer rather than wait for them to be distributed by the campaign itself.

Today in our errand running, I saw *5* Zero signs, a few stickers and tons of Mac/Sarah signs.

[which have the life span of a fruit fly due to torching, stomping, stealing and other hissy-fit desecrations]


13 posted on 10/08/2008 2:01:02 AM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult is the soundtrack to the Revolution.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"McCain's a war hero. This other guy's a show pony."

That my friends (hehe), is really how 99% of most "Reagan democrats" feel. They do not show up in the polls. They keep this close to the vest.

14 posted on 10/08/2008 2:03:33 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited

True.

People need to remember the majority of ppl are not weirdo leftists like the elitist media types....


15 posted on 10/08/2008 2:12:25 AM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

For what it’s worth, I hear this too, in Manhattan.


16 posted on 10/08/2008 2:39:27 AM PDT by Syberyenta
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To: Berlin_Freeper
As of this writing, Sen. Obama leads in the polls. How accurate is that? During the primaries Sen. Obama's margin of victory had often been overestimated. Pundits write that off to people in exit interviews simply lying for fear of appearing racist. There may be something to that. But not wanting to appear racist is not the same thing as actually being racist. My friend the plumber isn't a racist. He isn't a fool either. He knows the difference between celebrity and authenticity.

I pray that you are correct.

Of course I also pray that a good number of people hafve an attack of conscience when they get into the voting booth.

17 posted on 10/08/2008 2:40:19 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Salamander
[he considers him a Trojan Muzzie]

A muslim with a condom? /s

18 posted on 10/08/2008 2:42:17 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: DoneWithDems

“Wow, you sound like a troll.”

I think that you’ve misread or possibly misinterpreted my post, DWD.

I support McCain/Palin. I don’t particularly like the moral stature of the folks who have been “roughly outlined” in this piece.

Obama’s charechterization of “bitter/clingers” is based on a real stereotype, whether we like that or not. I think it is a small minority, but “the candidate of hope” painted every caucassian, blue collar worker in PA with the same brush. He also did it in front of a group of elitist jackels in. So, I don’t mean to do the same thing, still I don’t think very highly of these people and I’m not thrilled by their necessity within our voting block.

I am geralizaing here, but I know these voters. I have on rare opportunity sat in bars with them through various parts of Pennsylvania. I would never discuss politics in such places because if I did “your voters here” would have 3 or 4 union thugs beat out of me as soon as I stepped out the door.

These people have continuously voted for what is best for themseleves and their unions, despite what is good for our country. They have supported failing schools, pro-aborts and a few have demonstrated against our military. They support Jack Murtha and now they are miraculously coming around to my way of thinking and the only difference that I see is the shade of the politician???

I’ll take the votes for McCain ~ thank you! But there is much to be said for being thought of “for the company that we keep”.

I have cousins who are working class union guys in PA. Not bad guys, but they blindly vote for their own interests and whoever the unions tell them to vote for. Sorry, I just don’t think very highly of that.


19 posted on 10/08/2008 3:05:46 AM PDT by incredulous joe (George Soros; Owner Democratic Party)
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To: Salamander

Mostly Mac/Palin here in Fred and Carroll.

The Dems out this way still don’t know how to vote, but they seem to have a little class in terms of NOT stomping/burning/driving over their neighbors signs.

You get more of that the closer you get to Balmer.


20 posted on 10/08/2008 3:10:36 AM PDT by incredulous joe (George Soros; Owner Democratic Party)
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To: T Lady
I think the Union Plumber IS right. One of the thinmgs I noticed this election is the lack of signs and bumper stickers.

Post a McCain sign....and you pick up a racist label.

21 posted on 10/08/2008 3:11:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Salamander

BTW ~

Love the “Type O” quote.

Y’know, ya gotta want that cow bell!


22 posted on 10/08/2008 3:12:37 AM PDT by incredulous joe (George Soros; Owner Democratic Party)
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To: Need4Truth

My aunt has managed to get almost all my cousins and their family (all whom have never voted before) to register and vote early (in Georgia which McCain will take anyway). But I guarantee you there are a lot of folks like them. Lower middle income to poor whites who have seen their neighborhoods go downhill and their cities riddled with crime. Racist or not, that’s just the way they think.


23 posted on 10/08/2008 3:18:36 AM PDT by sandpit
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To: incredulous joe

I went to Bawlmer two weeks ago to pick up a rescue dog at BWI.

That takes care of my trips to Bawlmer for the next decade.


24 posted on 10/08/2008 3:41:19 AM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult is the soundtrack to the Revolution.)
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To: incredulous joe

We rode through “Fedrick” in the end of Sept. and very few Zero signs were up...even in the usual neighborhoods.

I saw several Mac signs on W. Patrick St, all of places.

RT 11 to Chambersburg is the same story.
When you get to the Wilson College area, they’re everywhere like fungus on a rotting stump.


25 posted on 10/08/2008 3:48:18 AM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult is the soundtrack to the Revolution.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
If the Media can convince people like this plumber that Obama wins easily, he doesn't bother showing up on election day.

The Republican are accused of suppression tactics in minority areas, the MSM/Dem Machine does it out loud and daily with phony polls all the time.

26 posted on 10/08/2008 3:49:51 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: T Lady

There’s lots of quiet anger out there with the PUMAS and with union people that feel Barry is being shoved down their thoats.


27 posted on 10/08/2008 3:51:35 AM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: Sacajaweau

***Post a McCain sign....and you pick up a racist label***

The only PERMANENT bumper stickers I have seen have been Barry’s.

McCain’s have been MAGNETIC because, well hell, we know what would happen to the sticker AND your car if you leave it on in an unguarded lot.

(And I’m in TEXAS!!)


28 posted on 10/08/2008 3:55:57 AM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: Prole

My neighbor and friend is a life long Democrat, who has never voted Republican in his 58 years.

He said that there is no way he will be responsible for the mess this “idiot” WILL create if he gets voted in.

He is also voting for a local Conservative for Congress, because he is very angry about the Democrat who stole the office from a good Republican in 2006. Thanks to his effort, the Minnesota legislature voted in the largest tax increase in it’s history. (A 46% increase....imagine that!)

I actually think my friend is starting to wake up after all!


29 posted on 10/08/2008 3:56:04 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Sara Palin; The Orca in a bay of Democrat Belugas!)
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To: incredulous joe
If voter fraud is held in check I believe we have a chance in Pennsylvania in spite of the polls.

This brings me to another issue which is driving me crazy this election cycle. That is the manipulation of poll numbers to create the false impression that the man child is doing better than he really is. As an example, they'll conduct a poll with roughly the same numbers of rats, repubs, and independents. A week later the same poll is taken with percentage wise more rats which shows a man child false surge. The media is trying to influence public opinion in every underhanded way imaginable.

30 posted on 10/08/2008 3:57:59 AM PDT by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: Salamander

I think HRC voters did Barry to the tune of 3 to 7 in those districts. I like those odds for McCain/Palin, but you know the fix will be in on the other ends of the state with Philly and Pittsburgh contributing much voter fraud.


31 posted on 10/08/2008 4:00:54 AM PDT by incredulous joe (George Soros; Owner Democratic Party)
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To: Salamander

Cool! Then you rescued a dog from Balmer.

Beleave!


32 posted on 10/08/2008 4:02:32 AM PDT by incredulous joe (George Soros; Owner Democratic Party)
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To: RU88

The way the media spun the VP debates is almost criminal fraud. Palin clearly won easily, but the media brainwashing was non stop. They followed the Goebbels doctrine to the “T”; Tell the same lie often enough, the public will eventually forget the facts an begin to believe it.


33 posted on 10/08/2008 4:03:12 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Sara Palin; The Orca in a bay of Democrat Belugas!)
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To: RU88

Fingers crossed.

Maybe they could have a few ACORN raids up in PA?


34 posted on 10/08/2008 4:03:54 AM PDT by incredulous joe (George Soros; Owner Democratic Party)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I know that these stories are just anecdotal...but, I can't fathom the average steel worker (there are some still working here); Teamster, iron worker, coal miner, etc., pulling the lever for 0bama. I am amazed at the constant polling that shows 0bama 'up' here in PA. I have a diverse group of family; friends; co-workers; and I can tell you that the folks that turned out in droves for Hillary (remember she took PA in the primary by 10 points) aren't liking Barry (put they conversation always seems to turn to how great Palin is). Hmmmm, wonder which way they are leaning?

But then again, I must run with a bitter, clingy crowd here in PA.

35 posted on 10/08/2008 4:05:25 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Who do you want in the White House...the Mommy or the Commie?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
My oldest nephew (35) has two degrees, two kids, a mortgage, a job in the financial industry and is from a Conservative family.

I have step by step shown him the facts about obama and Ayers, Wright, Alinsky, Kenya, al-mansour, ACORN, senate bill 2433...

His response: "I don't want to talk about it".

If he and his fellow obamobots get their way they will spend the next fifty years regretting it...we all will.

36 posted on 10/08/2008 4:09:26 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: incredulous joe

Nope...I rescued a dog from a shelter in California...and her sister who went to a home in Nebraska.

This is her:

http://www.ibizan-hound.com/gypsy.htm

[though I did get her out of Bawlmer alive ~after dark~, so yeah, I guess I rescued her from there, too]....LOL


37 posted on 10/08/2008 4:14:01 AM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult is the soundtrack to the Revolution.)
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To: wtc911

My friend claims to be utterly committed to finding out the facts and the truth about everything but she will not face the obvious, glaring crimes of her candidate.

It is utterly off limits for me to talk about Zero but she’s free to take pot shots at Republicans.

Liberals are fascists.


38 posted on 10/08/2008 4:17:09 AM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult is the soundtrack to the Revolution.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Yeah, but I bet he votes for the same stinking congress mob member that brought us to where we are.


39 posted on 10/08/2008 4:19:02 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Salamander

My sister is a liberal who has always voted Dem. She is not a racist, but cannot stand Obama. Her solution? She will vote for the local Dems and not vote for either candidate for president.

There are many like her. Effectively, a half of vote for McCain is better than a full vote for Barry. All those half votes add up, nationwide.


40 posted on 10/08/2008 4:33:31 AM PDT by HalfFull
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To: incredulous joe
Reagan was able to cleave and attract a lot of these voters. Since then, the effete, elite, snob, financial and corporate sucking RNC has, as it does to conservatives, libertarians, small businessmen, home schoolers, 2nd Amendment activist......snubbed them.

Even this bailout, could of handcuffed Dodd/Frank to Fuld, Syron, Mudd, Goldman Sacks, and killed the FDR welfare state. It theory. In practice the GOP, by and large is too dumb with any notion of political ideas and too cowardly to act, and to unskilled in media to communicate through the MSM if it did find a pair and acted.

41 posted on 10/08/2008 4:45:06 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Berlin_Freeper
He's 51-years-old and he's never voted for a Republican.

Tell him it's OK to vote for John McCain.....after all, he's really a Democrat.

42 posted on 10/08/2008 4:45:59 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
New evidence of Bradley/Wilder Effect:

Last night on Fox, Frank Luntz said his group of “undecideds” thought McCain won on the economy. This vote was taken off-camera.

When Brit Hume asked for a show of hands ON-CAMERA, only about 1/4 raised their hands and they did so slowly.

My guess is that the the folks that thought McCain had the edge did not want to identify themselves publicly for fear of harassment in the community and workplace.

But, in a secret ballot, I think I know how they will vote.

43 posted on 10/08/2008 4:47:37 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: incredulous joe

I agree that only the very small minded would vote based on race. What does that say about the 95% of blacks who will vote for Obama.

I do not support racism, but hey, we have got to keep Obama out of the White House!

Politics makes strange bed fellows.


44 posted on 10/08/2008 4:48:43 AM PDT by Islander7 (The only thing Obama has to fear is the truth!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
My son lives in a small town in New York. He says the guys he works with at a steel mill all say there is absolutely no way they will vote for "The One". They are voting for McCain enthusiastically since Palin.

An even bigger shocker is one of my uncles here in Texas who is a yellow dog Democrat. 72 years old and never voted Republican, but he likes McCain.
45 posted on 10/08/2008 4:55:23 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: DoneWithDems

I dont think he sounded like a troll at all.
This plumber has voted for whom the union told him to all his life. Now he is afraid of expressing himself?
I never met a yankee union worker who didnt speak his mind,
especially at union meetings.


46 posted on 10/08/2008 4:57:39 AM PDT by winodog
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To: incredulous joe

I think you’re right. The dems have been openly, blatantly, and proudly the party of treason for AT LEAST 50 FRICKING YEARS!!!!!!!!!!! All of a sudden this union bum has a problem with it. BS! He’s not voting for BO because BO is black. But that’s fine with me. BO is mega-filth, and I don’t care what reason people come up with to not vote for him.


47 posted on 10/08/2008 4:58:04 AM PDT by Lord Jim
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To: Salamander

Why would a die hard dem have a problem voting for a trojan muzzie? Die hard dems hate the US with all their heart, and therefore love Muzzie terrorists.


48 posted on 10/08/2008 5:00:15 AM PDT by Lord Jim
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I have an aquaintenance with whom I worked very closely for three years. He is a third generation Rat. He is a sitting judge. The gossip in our group has it that he has gone on record as being unable to support Obama.

His age is roughly 60 +


49 posted on 10/08/2008 5:00:58 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Off With her head.....)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

When they say “The Northeast” they mean Northeast Philadelphia.


50 posted on 10/08/2008 5:01:52 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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