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To: rewrite
"Lazy. There is NO excuse for ANYBODY being that lazy."

Actually, there is. It starts when you get out of shape, and a little over weight. Things just become harder to do, you tire more easily. Then as you gain more wieght, you tire even more, and expend more energy doing it, which of course makes you want to eat more.
As you gain even more wieght, your feet and knee's begin to get painfull, Back problems set in because of your weakening condition.
It gets harder to breathe as the fat around your liver pushes into the duaphram, reducing lung capacity as well as increasing pressure around the heart sack.

Soon you are hardly able to walk up a flight of stairs, or walk a block to the bus stop to go to work.

Next thing you know, you have your first heart attack and end up at home in bed on disability, gaining anbother 100 lbs a year.

It doesn't even take much food. Despite trying to cut down caloric intake, people in that condition continue to gain wieght, even if they are only eating 1200 calories a day, watching their carb intake.

What happens is they trigger tjeir liver into producing sugars to compensate for the lack of carbs they get through diet. This cause the liver to produce blood sugars from the bodys protein stores, not fat unfortunately. The liver when it's working this way, always produces way more than the body needs, which in turn causes the pancreas to work even harder producing insulin to bring those levels down. Too much insulin, causes you to put on even more fat.

It's a difficult situation to get out of. It may sound hard to believe, but dieting just doesn't work for those people (any people for that matter, but 10 times worse for them) What these people are, are basically type 2 diabetics, but don't know it, just like most overweight Americans don't know it. They think that as long as they don't take insulin, they can't be diabetic. WRONG!

The biggest mistake overwieght people make when trying to loose wieght, is cut all the carbs out of their diet. This is a huge mistake. This triggers low blood sugar conditions, which triggers the liver into producing blood sugars from body proteins. This is NOT what you want to have happen. It's what starts the "big belly" look, where the person carries a lot of their fat around the abdomin, and bellies start pouring over belts.

type 2 diabetes requires that you keep your blood sugur levels between 4.0 -7.0 before meals, between 5.0 10.0 2 hours after. This is done by restricting carb intake to about 60-75g per meals, and eating 3 meals a day. Skipping meals is a no no. At the same time, reducing fat intake. Proteins, carbs, and fats are the three main food groups. Protiens and carbs are what you want to eat, managing the carbs to about 65g a meal for the average male, 55-60 for a female.

27 posted on 10/08/2008 6:49:02 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
It doesn't even take much food. Despite trying to cut down caloric intake, people in that condition continue to gain wieght, even if they are only eating 1200 calories a day, watching their carb intake.

Watching some of the shows on TV, the doctors found that many said they were taking in few calories but were actually taking in 7000 or more calories per day.

28 posted on 10/08/2008 6:51:24 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: Nathan Zachary
Nathan, do you have any links? I would appreciate reading more.

About 4 years ago, I lost about 80 lbs. I now have a BMI of 23...but...keeping the weight off is literally hell on earth. I **must** weight and measure every crumb. Literally! Even one small Oreo cookie over my allotted 1,200 calories a day is enough to put on weight the very next day. This regimen also includes vigorous mountain biking and skiing 5 times a week.

Every day I wake up and the first thing I thing about is how hungry I am, how hungry I will be, and how much work and **determination** it will take just to get through the next 24 hours. I dread family and social events because of the food involved.

Some weeks ago I went to our local medical school library and did some research on hunger and weight loss. The only thing that works is surgery. Those having surgery have the best chance of losing weight and keeping it off.

By the way, there is a new operation called a vagotomy, that snips the vagus nerve as it exits the stomach. It is a 20 minute laporoscopy operation and the patients leave the hospital an hour after the operation and go back to work the next day. Unfortunately, I was not able to find any papers published by the surgeons doing this operation and only read about in the popular press. The surgeons are located in San Francisco and Pittsburgh.

Anyway...Here it is morning,..and I have another day of facing constant hunger and only 1,200 calories to feed it. I **know** from experience that any more than that and I will gain weight. There are more than 15 hunger hormones that drive weight gain, metabolism, and hunger and it is **very** hard to trick Mother Nature.

If there is food in heaven, I will turn around and go to hell. Hell could not be worse.

43 posted on 10/08/2008 7:41:57 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Nathan Zachary
I've never seen a more factually wrong post on FR, even from DU trolls.

If you want to learn about what happens on a low-carb diet, I suggest this book:

It's fully referenced from start to finish.

You might even want to read this first: You are not different

71 posted on 10/08/2008 11:17:58 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: Nathan Zachary

I’ve had a liver transplant.
Top that...

There is NO EXCUSE for ANYBODY to be that fat.
It takes work.
It takes disipline.
I was on a diet for 23 yrs prior to My transplant, with no problems sticking to it.
Change Your mindset-You can change Your life.
The foods I couldn’t have(due to a low copper diet from a Wilson’s Disease diagnosis) I didn’t worry that I couldn’t have them.
I ate what I could have and enjoyed it.

I tricked Myself into not wanting these foods , because they could potentially kill Me.
Once You lay it out like that ....a diet becomes easier to stick to.

However. with the new liver, which was correctly set up by the other person that had it’s DNA...I no longer have Wilson’s Disease.
So no more diet.

I still eat with sensibility.....without restriction.

I know a little bit about diet and what it takes to eat right.

I guess that is what I’m trying to say.
There is no reason why anybody shouldn’t be able to use some sense and logic when they sit down to a table to eat.

75 posted on 10/08/2008 6:21:37 PM PDT by rewrite
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