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Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis
McClatchy Newspapers ^ | October 11, 2008 | By David Goldstein and Kevin G. Hall

Posted on 10/11/2008 10:09:12 PM PDT by RushingWater

Federal Reserve Board data show that:

_ More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions.

_ Private firms made nearly 83 percent of the subprime loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers that year.

_ Only one of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006 was directly subject to the housing law that's being lambasted by conservative critics.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcclatchydc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bailout; bankinglist; cassano; cdss; creditdefaultswaps; economy; fanniemae; financelist; financialcrisis; freddiemac; mcclatchy; moneylist; mortgage; subprime; swaps
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To: buffyt

The number of foreclosures are concentrated in about five states: California, Arizona, Florida, North Carolina, and [Nevada?]. I see foreclosures all over the place here in Fresno. It’s sad.


21 posted on 10/11/2008 10:32:17 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: RushingWater

THIS IS A TOTAL LOAD OF BULL HOCKEY!


22 posted on 10/11/2008 10:33:22 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: buffyt

Plus, banks have only a few investment opportunities and many of them bought stock in the FMs. The failure of the GSEs wiped out a lot of assets on the banks’ books, and now they are overleveraged.


23 posted on 10/11/2008 10:34:50 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: RushingWater

Most of these mortgages were created by sleazy “sub-prime” shops that made really bizarre mortgages, bundled them and sold them to banks, who bought them because no one really cared during the housing boom because everything was going up in value by the day.

The people running these subprime shops were like the housing equivalent of a sleazy used car salesman, and many of them made a quick fortune and closed up shop. They were everywhere a couple years ago.


24 posted on 10/11/2008 10:36:01 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: teletech

actually, the author is right on a lot of things. These mortgages were mostly created in “sub-prime” shops-—weird little places that popped up like mushrooms during the housing boom. They were sordid little places that made the loan, bagged the closing costs and then sold these mortgage time bombs to banks as quick as possible.


25 posted on 10/11/2008 10:39:52 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: RushingWater

The lies by these Lefties are outright stunning! Folks, private organizations like banks, savings banks and mortgage companies ORIGINATE mortgage loans. But... over 85% of these loans are sold to Fanny and Freddie.

Where do Fanny and Freddie get the money to buy these loans? They sell bonds to stupid Swiss bankers at UBS (and other banks, too). They sell the bonds to the banks and use the proceeds to buy the crappy mortgages from the mortgage originating banks, savings banks and mortgage companies.

If people are ignorant of the facts, they will believe this story without understanding the truth. IGNORANCE MAY BE BLISS, BUT IT IS ALS FATAL! WAKE UP!!!


26 posted on 10/11/2008 10:41:12 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

well, the fact that banking law was changed and they could spend 40$ for every 1$ they kept as insurance turned out to be not so good for long term stability.


27 posted on 10/11/2008 10:41:30 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: RushingWater
This piece would have us believing the greedy private sector made sub prime loans just so they would lose money.

No, the loans were sold, almost before they were written, to Fannie and Freddie and were "encouraged" under threat of legal action in federal courts.

28 posted on 10/11/2008 10:42:15 PM PDT by Rudder (That One, Hussein Obama)
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To: RushingWater

My daughter is a VP for a company in this industry.

She says... If banks make loans that do not meet the Freddy/Fanny criteria, they can not sell the paper.

So this whole mcclatchydc.com thing is BS... (that’s not her speaking - It’s me)


29 posted on 10/11/2008 10:43:27 PM PDT by babygene (This Government no longer works to secure our freedoms and provide for our common defense.)
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To: ChurtleDawg
“Most of these mortgages were created by sleazy “sub-prime” shops that made really bizarre mortgages, bundled them and sold them to banks, who bought them because no one really cared during the housing boom because everything was going up in value by the day.

The people running these subprime shops were like the housing equivalent of a sleazy used car salesman, and many of them made a quick fortune and closed up shop. They were everywhere a couple years ago.”

Spot on. But, you missed one step. The mortgage loan originators sold the mortgage loans to Freddie and Fanny and made an origination fee. Freddie and Fanny sold bonds to the banks and other investors and used the proceeds from the bond sale to buy the mortgages from the originators. Thus, Freddie and Fanny hold over 85% of the originated loans. This story is a lie and intended to deceive people who don;t understand how the mortgage market works. DON'T BE FOOLED!

30 posted on 10/11/2008 10:44:57 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: ChurtleDawg
actually, the author is right on a lot of things. These mortgages were mostly created in “sub-prime” shops-—weird little places that popped up like mushrooms during the housing boom. They were sordid little places that made the loan, bagged the closing costs and then sold these mortgage time bombs to banks as quick as possible.

Fannie & Freddie guaranteed these loans didn't they? If the banks didn't make these sub-prime loans they were sued by lawyers like Obama for red-lining.

31 posted on 10/11/2008 10:48:21 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: buffyt
” find it IMPOSSIBLE to believe that the 2.5% of US home mortgages that are in default have suddenly caused a worldwide financial crisis. I think there is something much more sinister than that going on here. These loans have been made in California for years. We didn’t just wake up a couple of weeks ago to this.”

Spot on! Its the credit swaps. The Fed has already committed more new money than all of the outstanding sub-prime mortgages. If you research the swaps, you'll puke. Greed beyond comprehension from the Wall Street Five! Seems every bank in the world has drunk the Kool-aid and is now stuck with worthless swaps! Like handing our free coke in every drug rehab house in the world.

32 posted on 10/11/2008 10:48:33 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: Rembrandt
I call one the “Socialist” choice and the other the “Communist” choice.

Wow! How amazingly like this election!

33 posted on 10/11/2008 10:51:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: babygene
“My daughter is a VP for a company in this industry.

She says... If banks make loans that do not meet the Freddy/Fanny criteria, they can not sell the paper.

So this whole mcclatchydc.com thing is BS... (that’s not her speaking - It’s me)”

Absolutely correct. Fanny and Freddie buy over 85% of the mortgages originated in this country. Sub-prime and prime. No bank or mortgage company would write a loan unless they could sell it to F or F. If they can't sell it, they are stuck with it “in the vault.” The originators won't take that risk. So they only write loans they can sell.

34 posted on 10/11/2008 10:51:54 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: RushingWater
Fannie and Freddie were the proving grounds that legitimized lenders issuing more and more risky loans, and it snowballed from there. Plucking stats from 2006 is misleading. What about all the subprime loans from 1977 to 2005? Even then the authors concede that risky loans by Fannie and Freddie in 2006 contributed to 16% of this crisis. Bottom line is that if Fannie or Freddie didnt exist, this crisis wouldnt have happened.

* 31 years of a failed Democratic Party policy, encouraging and pressuring banks to issue more and more risky loans, is what caused this economic crisis

* At the forefront in the early 90s was Obama. He sued Citibank, and he trained and funded ACORN, when they were intimidating banks to issue more of these risky loans

* It snowballed from there when Obama’s economic advisors, former CEOs of Fannie Mae, implemented this failed policy at Fannie Mae

* Even when warned about an impending crisis, Democrats still blocked reform in 2003 and 2005 that would have prevented it

* Obama at a 2007 ACORN meeting: "We are going to be calling all of you in to shape the agenda of my presidency." http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU

* So far this failed Democratic Party policy of 31 years has cost taxpayers over one trillion dollars, and Obama's 'agenda'... will make taxpayers pay even more
35 posted on 10/11/2008 10:52:40 PM PDT by igoramus08
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To: RushingWater

This story is a pack of lies designed to mislead ignorant people and get them to vote for the Messiah! IGNORANCE IS NOT FREE!


36 posted on 10/11/2008 10:53:15 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: buffyt

What I understand is this:
These mortgages were bundled with other mortgages so there were maybe some bad along with good ones, and this was then sold as a package to someone like Lehman, etc. who resold them to clients. Then, trying to assuage any worry the client might have, Lehman (or whoever) sold what was basically insurance to the client guaranteeing the safety of the package. This insurance was a self-insurance by the banker. So it became a double whammy when the securities started not being worth what everyone thought.

The other problem was that since these were bundled, no one could tell exactly where the rot was so the whole package became unwanted and therefore worth very little.

This is basically what I learned from reading about what 60 minutes had to say about this last week.


37 posted on 10/11/2008 10:55:05 PM PDT by Aria ("An America that could elect Sarah Palin might still save itself." Vin Suprynowicz)
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To: teletech

“Fannie & Freddie guaranteed these loans didn’t they? “

Freddie and Fannie actually buy these loans from the originators (not guarantee them). And Freddie and Fanny sell bonds to Swiss and other dumb bankers (all of whom were seen whining in Washington earlier today) to raise money to buy these loans.


38 posted on 10/11/2008 10:56:27 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: Aria
Close. The originators sell 85% of the loans to Fannie and Freddie and the other 15% directly to Lehman, et al. Usually, the jumbo mortgages. They do all get blended together into traunches and sold to investors (the banks of the world who were in Washington this weekend whining about a bailout).
39 posted on 10/11/2008 10:59:07 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: April Lexington
Freddie and Fannie actually buy these loans from the originators (not guarantee them). And Freddie and Fanny sell bonds to Swiss and other dumb bankers (all of whom were seen whining in Washington earlier today) to raise money to buy these loans.

Call it what you will. Fannie and Freddie got left holding wothless paper in their portfolio until it buried them and this was all encouraged by Barney Franks, Chris Dodd and Obama himself. McCain tried to pass a bill in 2005 and the RATS all voted NO. Might have saved us from this present crisis too.

40 posted on 10/11/2008 11:02:42 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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