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Child support law leaves man a default dad
Tulsa World ^ | October 13, 2008 | Jarrel Wade

Posted on 10/14/2008 4:39:29 AM PDT by RogerFGay

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To: RogerFGay

I’m looking for the Freepers to show up here saying it’s this man responsiblity because he missed his trial date, even after he was exonerated of any parental involvement.


21 posted on 10/14/2008 5:00:06 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: caver

See comments by wtc911. He’s probably typing out the email message to bring the gang in as I write this.


22 posted on 10/14/2008 5:02:27 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Most states do that with extreme limits - time constraints on filing - just like OK. My guess is that if you check closer, you may find that Arkansas is the same way. It may only be 30 days from the birth of the child.


23 posted on 10/14/2008 5:03:57 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
Wow. Freedom truly isn't free.

I hope the guy manages to somehow get out of this mess. What is just as ironic is that there are so many men out there who have kids that are not biologically theirs, but they have no idea. As someone once told me, unless you have very 'unique' features, or you do a DNA test, the only person who can be sure they are the parent is the mother.

24 posted on 10/14/2008 5:10:00 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz
His case is by no means unique. There are millions out there forced to pay child support who are not the fathers. It just isn't reported regularly. Here's another: Illinois Paternity Decision Linked to Funding Scam
25 posted on 10/14/2008 5:14:17 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: spetznaz
"there are so many men out there who have kids that are not biologically theirs"
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
26 posted on 10/14/2008 5:40:12 AM PDT by neefer (Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run.)
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To: caver

This isn’t traffic court - this is well beyond reasonable, even if the guy tore up the court papers and refused to appear at first, the fact is he’s being prosecuted without basis - how do we know that the real father isn’t still with the child and standing to enjoy the fruits of the scam?

The mother should be sued and locked in debtors prison to rot - alongside anyone in the courts that let this continue well past the point of common sense.


27 posted on 10/14/2008 5:43:52 AM PDT by sbMKE
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To: ikka

Over 18 years, mine would have been well over 5 times that. A half a frickin million bucks. Not too shabby, eh?


28 posted on 10/14/2008 5:44:51 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: wtc911

He said he is not that person, why do you continue the attacks?


29 posted on 10/14/2008 5:45:35 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: neefer

LOL. So true. I concur with Reagan ...trust but verify. The only women I completely trust are my grandma, my mom, my sister, my cat and my dog. End of story.


30 posted on 10/14/2008 5:46:24 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: RogerFGay

“In child support cases, the burden of proof is on the alleged father — the accused — according to Oklahoma statutes.

An alleged father must appear at a child support hearing to request a paternity test. If he does not appear, he is legally designated as the father and child support is established in most cases.”

If this is the case, then what prevents the mother from just picking a name out of the phone book?


31 posted on 10/14/2008 5:47:00 AM PDT by CSM ("Conservobabes are hot. Libitches are not." - stolen from rightinthemiddle)
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To: RogerFGay

only in America where you present undisputed proof that you are not the legal father can this happen. the courts just want to wash their hands of it so the state doesn’t have to pay the woman to raise her child. just let some poor sucker pay the lyin woman and give her a free ride.


32 posted on 10/14/2008 5:48:11 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: RogerFGay

LA County prosecutor Gil Garcetti is famous for making non-parental fathers pay child support. Just having the wrong name is sufficient.


33 posted on 10/14/2008 5:48:51 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: tatsinfla

This is a gross miscarriage of justice, and people,starting with the person receiving child support, should be thoroughly punished for these crimes against innocent victims.


34 posted on 10/14/2008 5:51:06 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: CSM
If this is the case, then what prevents the mother from just picking a name out of the phone book?

They often do. The welfare system requires "cooperation" in establishing paternity as a condition for eligibility. Many women start by giving names and addresses of men they know or know of and then move to the phone book for more names and addresses. As long as they continue to provide names, the condition of "cooperation" is met.

It happens all the time. It's just not reported much.

What Pierce didn't realize, and what nearly 10 million American men have discovered to their chagrin since the welfare reform legislation of 1996, is that when the government accuses you of fathering a child, no matter how flimsy the evidence, you are one month away from having your life wrecked. source
My response just to correct a factual error
35 posted on 10/14/2008 5:54:55 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: sbMKE

“how do we know that the real father isn’t still with the child and standing to enjoy the fruits of the scam?”

Good question. My point is that once the mother has told a man that he is the father, then later found out not to be, some here think he ought to keep paying.


36 posted on 10/14/2008 5:56:08 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: tatsinfla

The primary motivation is the federal funding that rewards states for pushing more people into the system. You can thank the 9th Circuit Federal Court of Appeals (P.O.P.S. v Gardner) for decommissioning the Bill of Rights to allow the practice to continue.


37 posted on 10/14/2008 5:56:43 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Yep ... the practice has been reported in California more than any other state ... and LA County most of all in California. But this is a national problem driven by federal pork-barrel funding.


38 posted on 10/14/2008 5:57:53 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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He said he is not that person, why do you continue the attacks?

I would like to know that as well.

39 posted on 10/14/2008 6:00:22 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: RogerFGay

That is truly frightening and most of all even if a guy is “behaving” then they could still get caught up in the trap.


40 posted on 10/14/2008 6:03:05 AM PDT by CSM ("Conservobabes are hot. Libitches are not." - stolen from rightinthemiddle)
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