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GOP Catholic backs Obama (Gag me with a fork!)
Chicago Tribune ^ | October 8, 2008 | Mary Schmich

Posted on 10/14/2008 12:12:55 PM PDT by IbJensen

Doug Kmiec went to mass, as usual, at Our Lady of Malibu on Tuesday morning. Then he drove up the hill to his office to talk to me by phone about how a Republican Catholic opposed to abortion could endorse Barack Obama. You may recognize Kmiec's name. He teaches at Pepperdine University in California now, but he's a Chicago guy.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gopcino; kmiec; nobama; obamanation
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I'd puke, but what good would that do?
1 posted on 10/14/2008 12:12:55 PM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

Our Lady of Malibu?????


2 posted on 10/14/2008 12:13:52 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: IbJensen

It’s spelled “Mass” ... and if Doug Kmeic is seriously intending to vote for 0bama, he should be going to confession first ... and then determining to vote for someone other than a radical promoter of baby-murder.


3 posted on 10/14/2008 12:15:09 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: stanz
> Our Lady of Malibu?????

It's Malibu Barbie!

4 posted on 10/14/2008 12:16:32 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: IbJensen

Obama cannot win without solid Catholic support.


5 posted on 10/14/2008 12:16:56 PM PDT by proudpapa (McCain - Palin'08)
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To: IbJensen

Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than going into a doghouse makes you a dog.


6 posted on 10/14/2008 12:17:15 PM PDT by polymuser (God bless and keep America.)
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To: IbJensen

Mary Schmich is the one regurgitating old news to present an impression to coincide with the false polling we’re being inundated with right now. He’s been working for Obama for some time.


7 posted on 10/14/2008 12:18:04 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: IbJensen

Doug...I was raised Catholic.
I know Catholics and you are no Catholic.


8 posted on 10/14/2008 12:18:39 PM PDT by donnab (Will the real Obama please stand up?)
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To: IbJensen

Doug Kmiec is a lost soul and false teacher.


9 posted on 10/14/2008 12:19:48 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Dime to doughnuts that Kmiec is a democRAT. It wioll come out after some investigation but it will be shown that this piece of goat smegma is a democRAT.


10 posted on 10/14/2008 12:20:29 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (I will not vote for Obama not because he is black, but because he is RED)
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To: stanz

11 posted on 10/14/2008 12:21:28 PM PDT by netmilsmom ( Obama And Osama both have friends who bombed the Pentagon)
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To: Ouderkirk

I won’t bet against that ...


12 posted on 10/14/2008 12:22:49 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: DarthVader
"When Kmiec walked to the altar for communion, the priest put his hand over the ciborium that held the hosts and said, 'Not you.'"

+++

Isn't Mr. Kmiec the least bit concerned that after his death, Christ will say the same thing to him ... 'Not you.'
13 posted on 10/14/2008 12:23:06 PM PDT by mlizzy
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To: IbJensen
Kmeic jumped off the Actholic reservation about a year ago. No PRACTICING Roman Cathlic can morally justify a vote for Obama and Biden, the most pro-abortion ticket in the history of the country.

Kmeic is just full of B.S., and something in his life has gone terribly wrong.

14 posted on 10/14/2008 12:23:17 PM PDT by CWW (Palin & Jindal in 2012!!)
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To: IbJensen
... When Kmiec walked to the altar for communion, the priest put his hand over the ciborium that held the hosts and said, "Not you." ...

Wow! Who is this priest and how can we clone him?

15 posted on 10/14/2008 12:23:52 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: IbJensen

I think with this election we are finding out who is real and who is not. I think this guy was pro-life when it was cool to be and now his pro Obama because it’s cool to be.


16 posted on 10/14/2008 12:29:00 PM PDT by beandog
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To: IbJensen

Doug, you magnificent putz!

This meathead does not realize that supporting Mr. Obama is the equivalent of a mortal sin, in that Obama is probably the leftest of the left when it comes to supporting the abortion of children in their mothers’ wombs.

Listen, Dougie, if you vote for Mr. Obama, you must then run the confession and truly repent what you have done. Otherwise, it is a stain that shall remain on your soul for the rest of your life.

The Good Lord doesn’t like it when we kill his babies.


17 posted on 10/14/2008 12:29:42 PM PDT by RexBeach
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To: IbJensen

I don’t know if there are any real Republicans in Crook County any more.


18 posted on 10/14/2008 12:30:15 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: stanz
Our Lady of Malibu?????

Just down the street from Our Lady of Perpetual Welfare...

19 posted on 10/14/2008 12:31:44 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies; Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes.)
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To: IbJensen
"Is there an alternative way to be pro-life?" he wondered. "I think," he said, "Sen. Obama comes reasonably close to that alternative path. He is careful to say he's pro-choice, not pro-abortion. There's a significant difference that my church, in particular, should pay more attention to."

You disingenuing False Prophet!

Obama has voted for Infanticide! FOUR TIMES!!!!!!

Kmiec was drawn to Obama's emphasis on using public resources to alleviate social conditions that correlate with abortion. Poverty, for example.

Trillions of dollars for Great Society programs have not alleviated poverty.

Why?

Because it is the Churches' job to alleviate the spiritual conditions that lead to the BAD Behavior that is at the root of poverty in this country.

20 posted on 10/14/2008 12:33:16 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: IbJensen
From the article:

Obama talked ... the cost, in lives and dollars, of the Iraq War.

This seems to be where some supposed Catholics, including some of the Traditionalist variety, have gone off the rails. They've gotten the notion that the Iraq front in the war on islamic terrorism is somehow unjust (in the Just War sense of the word), and gone from there to opposing Pres. Bush with a Code Pink level of ferocity. Supporting 0bama is just more of the same insanity.

21 posted on 10/14/2008 12:35:06 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: IbJensen
Doug Kmiec, Catholic

John Kerry, Catholic

Nancy Pelosi, Catholic

Chief Justice John Roberts, Catholic

[cue 'Sesame Street' tune]: One of these things is not like the other...
22 posted on 10/14/2008 12:40:02 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies; Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes.)
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To: mlizzy

He is totally overcome with himself and has no real grasp of God’s commandments. He may very well hear: “Depart from me you worker of inquity, I NEVER KNEW YOU.!!”


23 posted on 10/14/2008 12:42:32 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Ouderkirk
Dime to doughnuts that Kmiec is a democRAT

Unfortunately you guys lose. He worked in the Reagan administration, has been considered a leading pro-life Constitutional scholar, and was supporting Romney this year.

24 posted on 10/14/2008 12:47:13 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: IbJensen

Its the Dem Catholics voting for Mcain that should be in the news.


25 posted on 10/14/2008 12:51:42 PM PDT by enduserindy (Just say NO to the curtain!)
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To: IbJensen

Forgive me my cynicism, folks. I concluded a few months ago that he’s angling for a judgeship.


26 posted on 10/14/2008 12:52:05 PM PDT by freespirited (We have met the enemy, and he is the MSM.)
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To: IbJensen
Kmiec's bovine scatology has been debunked many times on National Review.

Try this...

27 posted on 10/14/2008 12:57:46 PM PDT by ajwharton (FL GOP Pollwatcher, ACORN-buster)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Ok, so he does not like McCain. I guess voting against all your principles (As to his resume’) is fine only when the opponent is John McCain and some right wing radical scary Christian (Not RCC) nut who is female and hunts living creatures.

I will take a guess at his excuse “at least Biden is Roman Catholic God”. Obama is about as opposite as you can get with Reagan/pro-life platform. His reasoning skills are out of phase.

28 posted on 10/14/2008 12:58:10 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: IbJensen
One so-called Catholic endorses Obama. That's news.

Many Dems endorse McCain. Not news.

Go figure.



Click above to download a PDF of this flyer (148K). Sure to make Demomcrat heads explode.
29 posted on 10/14/2008 1:02:34 PM PDT by Antoninus (If you're bashing McCain/Palin at this point, you're helping Obama.)
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To: COBOL2Java

LOL! First laugh I’ve had in days!


30 posted on 10/14/2008 1:07:07 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: nutmeg

ping


31 posted on 10/14/2008 1:08:24 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Every time this guy opens his piehole about his support of Obama as a CATHOLIC, my blood pressure skyrockets. this is UNCONSCIONABLE.


32 posted on 10/14/2008 1:11:24 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

which makes his support of obama completely ludicrous and inexplicable.


33 posted on 10/14/2008 1:12:59 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: IbJensen
But to many Catholics, redistribution of wealth trumps all other moral, religious, Church stuff! Keep those goodies coming!
34 posted on 10/14/2008 1:14:37 PM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: xsmommy
See #21

Irrational Anti-War position ==> BDS ==> stumping for a baby-killer.

35 posted on 10/14/2008 1:14:40 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: freespirited

a judgeship he is unlikely to receive from an Obama administration. they are using him and have no intention of repaying him for this lunacy. his record is such that the hard left [who controls the dem appointment process] would NEVER put him on there, they will load it up with many more reliable leftwingers.


36 posted on 10/14/2008 1:15:24 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

When communists come to power, the first thing they do is “purge” their unreliable supporters.


37 posted on 10/14/2008 1:16:24 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: donnab

As a kid growing up in the South I was always told that Catholics didn’t really practice their faith. How, of course, I know it’s just that some don’t and that paints all the rest. People like Kennedy, Biden etc. make all Catholics look bad.


38 posted on 10/14/2008 1:22:58 PM PDT by Terry Mross (O)
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To: xsmommy

In 1992 in his acceptance speech Bill Clinton said, “Make no mistake about it. We’re pro-choice. No pro-abortion.” And that same statement makes this guy vote for Obama?


39 posted on 10/14/2008 1:26:12 PM PDT by Terry Mross (O)
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To: ajwharton
Mary Schmich is a big fat liar! She deliberately created Kmiec's altar boy character and thought her readers would swallow it.

I feel certain some have. They're incapable of considering this:

If you haven’t gotten enough of law professor Doug Kmiec’s endless fatuities about how pro-life Barack Obama—the most radical pro-abortion presidential candidate ever—really is, Kmiec now has a book out titled Can a Catholic Support Him? Asking the Big Question about Barack Obama. Based on what Kmiec has written so far, I’m fairly certain that his real answer is: Yes, if you suspend your rational faculties and enjoy the perks of being a willing dupe.

40 posted on 10/14/2008 1:27:38 PM PDT by IbJensen (Ali Bama isn't going to make it! (Communist Gangbanger!))
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To: ArrogantBustard

I believe that you are right, although Romney was not a dove, after all. One more weird incident in this weird election. Thank the Lord that the 2012 election campaign will start in 3 weeks and one day.


41 posted on 10/14/2008 1:29:04 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: TRY ONE
But to many Catholics, redistribution of wealth trumps all other moral, religious, Church stuff!

According to the Pope and the Bishops they are mistaken, and are endangering their immortal souls.

42 posted on 10/14/2008 1:32:15 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: stanz
California 'Catholic' Churches are not Roman Catholic Churches. It has been my misfortune to be caught in California on Sundays and having to attend what passes for masses (how's that?) and being confronted with a pew female neighbor planting a 'kiss of peace' on my foolish face!

No votive candles, no statues or pictures of our Lord, the Blessed Virgin, or any saints. Try to find a confessional.

Of course I've never been a big fan of the Novus Ordo, but what is one to do?

At least anti-baby killing is preached upon by the priest, but many fail to listen.

There is a guide available for practical, practicing Catholics available in respect to voting with our consciences.

Our Lady of Malibu is appropriately sacrilegous in the case of Kmiec.

43 posted on 10/14/2008 1:35:24 PM PDT by IbJensen (Ali Bama isn't going to make it! (Communist Gangbanger!))
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To: proudpapa

B. Hussein Obama can count on the Massachusetts ‘Catholics’ to cast their votes for him, but with ACORN who needs them?


44 posted on 10/14/2008 1:36:24 PM PDT by IbJensen (Ali Bama isn't going to make it! (Communist Gangbanger!))
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To: ArrogantBustard

He’ll go to confession AFTER he pulls the lever for Hussein Obama.


45 posted on 10/14/2008 1:37:29 PM PDT by IbJensen (Ali Bama isn't going to make it! (Communist Gangbanger!))
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To: RexBeach
What's really ironic is that I received this article as a clipping in an envelope from a Catholic friend who plans on voting for Obama.

(I had to give up, but if this obamanation is elected I will remind him in a year or so when many of our Christian brothers are in shackles being led off to the slave market in downtown Toledo.)

46 posted on 10/14/2008 1:41:14 PM PDT by IbJensen (Ali Bama isn't going to make it! (Communist Gangbanger!))
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To: IbJensen
Contrition? Firm purpose of amendment?

A bogus confession is just another mortal sin of sacrilege.

47 posted on 10/14/2008 1:45:22 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
This seems to be where some supposed Catholics, including some of the Traditionalist variety, have gone off the rails. They've gotten the notion that the Iraq front in the war on islamic terrorism is somehow unjust (in the Just War sense of the word), and gone from there to opposing Pres. Bush with a Code Pink level of ferocity.

Yes, there is a type of Catholic--some of them very traditional in their outlook--for whom the Iraq War is everything. They have, for whatever reason, made the War the only issue that counts. At bottom they are one-issue voters in the true sense. They are very confused and somewhat irrational in their justification for this stance. Kmiec's rationales for supporting Obama are seriously laughable.

Sadly, people like Kmiec remind me of certain religous folks who lived behind the Iron Curtain during the Cold War. These folks tied themselves in knots to prove that communism was compatible with the Gospel. They look as foolish now as Kmiec will look in years to come.

48 posted on 10/14/2008 1:48:19 PM PDT by ishmac (Houston near UST)
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To: ArrogantBustard

But don’t you have to be sorry for you sin to actually be forgiven?


49 posted on 10/14/2008 1:51:51 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: tiki
It is not true that for the Catholic the mere "telling of one's sins" suffices to obtain their forgiveness. Without sincere sorrow and purpose of amendment, confession avails nothing, the pronouncement of absolution is of no effect, and the guilt of the sinner is greater than before.
50 posted on 10/14/2008 1:57:37 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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