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To: JRandomFreeper
I said: "You asked "where in the Bible (or in whatever Book your faith uses) did you find that stated?"

I gave you that.

No you didn't. you gave me what Jesus told 12 men to do. I'm sorry but that carries absolutely no weight in the courts of the United States of America. If you think it does, try it sometime, and then stand back while the judge gives you a rather stern tongue lashing.

Tell me where the Constitution of the United States says that citizens don't have the right to defend themselves.

{i} It doesn't.

[2] That is not the subject of this discussion -- the carrying of weapons by individual citizens is the subject.

And the Supreme Law of the Land is: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Quite right. But where does it say that God gave you those rights?

That seems to be enough.

Enough for what? To prove that those rights were given to you by God? Not enough for that. Sorry.

And if it's not, and you want to take away my right and ability to self defense.... Where the devil did you come up with that? Why the hell would I care about whether or not you have the means of self defense?

I'll be glad to meet in person to argue the point.

There is no argument to it. That's settled -- whether you like it or not, God did not give you the right to carry a gun.

If you think he did, then dig up a citaation in law to prove it -- United States Law, not Hebraic tradition or Biblical conversation. Neither of those is enforceable law in this country.

40 posted on 10/14/2008 8:48:11 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (The FairTax -- the largest magnet for capital and jobs in history. John Snow)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Ohhhkayyy.... Your position is that God didn't give us the right to defend ourselves. Then where did the right come from? What does Black have to say about it?

/johnny

42 posted on 10/14/2008 8:51:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

You are obviously a statist and not a true conservative.

You seem to say that rights are granted by the state instead of being inalienable and granted by God.....as our Founding Fathers believed.

That sounds like some European talking, not an American.


46 posted on 10/14/2008 8:55:25 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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