[JRandomFreeper]

You said: "I am not stupid enough to claim that ownership as God-given when Iknow it is not." (SIC)

That's where I got the idea that you don't believe that self defense is a God-given right.

No lies, just a quote.

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

I said: "I am not stupid enough to claim that ownership as God-given when I know it is not."

That's where I got the idea that you don't believe that self defense is a God-given right.

Then are you saying that the fact that I don't go along with the ownership of my guns is not God-given [and believe me, He did not give me a single one of them} then I don't believe the right of self defense is an inalienable, God-given ability and right??

Oranges and Apples.