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Nurse Who Exposed Infanticide-Based Abortions: Obama Lied During Debate
LifeNews.com ^ | October 15, 2008 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 10/16/2008 5:44:59 AM PDT by rhema

The Chicago-area nurse who exposed the practice of life-birth abortions that led to he bill Barack Obama repeatedly opposed in the Illinois legislature says Obama lied about his record during the final presidential debate. Jill Stanek says Obama again misrepresented his position and record before the American people.

As LifeNews.com reported, John McCain took Obama to task during the debate when the topic turned to abortion.

“Sen. Obama, as a member of the Illinois State Senate, voted in the Judiciary Committee against a law that would provide immediate medical attention to a child born of a failed abortion. He voted against that,” McCain said.

Obama responded to the charge by repeating his claim that he voted against the bill because it would have undermined Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court case that allowed virtually unlimited abortions throughout pregnancy.

However, as Stanek explains, Obama voted for an amendment to the bill to mitigate those concerns and subsequently voted against the legislation anyway.

Stanek said the bill, the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, “simply stated all born alive babies became legally protected persons immediately upon birth, no matter what gestational age and no matter if unwanted abortion survivors.”

“Obama voted against this straightforward human rights legislation four times stating as the sole state senator speaking against it on the Senate floor in 2001 it would be ‘unconstitutional’ to declare very premature abortion survivors persons,” Stanek explained.

Obama also defended his votes against the anti-infanticide bill by claiming "there was already a law on the books in Illinois that required providing lifesaving treatment.”

Stanek also called that a “lie” saying “Illinois abortion law to this day only protects abortion survivors their abortionist deems fit to live.

“The potential for subjective assessments in these cases is clear to all but Obama. In fact, Obama opposed closing this loophole by voting against legislation to mandate a second doctor be present at deliveries of all live abortion survivors to independently assess their viability,” she said.

Obama not only voted against the bill to protect newborns who survive failed abortions but the Chicago-area nurse says he took a leadership role to defeat it.

Stanek points to Obama’s own campaign web site which indicates he approached the Illinois Planned Parenthood affiliate to develop a strategy to defeat that measure and the ban on partial-birth abortions.

Despite Obama’s claims, Stanek says Obama ultimately voted in 2003 against a version of the bill identical to a Congressional anti-infanticide bill the Senate approved on a 98-0 margin and on which the pro-abortion group NARAL took no position.

“He then purported several times, as recently as August 16, 2008, that the bills were not identical and he would have supported the Illinois version had it been the same as the federal version,” she said.

Obama’s campaign finally had to recant from that position after documents from the Illinois legislature proved him wrong.

“I'm beyond disgusted that Obama continues to repeat the same lies without the mainstream media investigating and denouncing him. We'll see what tomorrow brings,” Stanek concluded.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: abortion; debate; moralabsolutes; obama; prolife
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1 posted on 10/16/2008 5:44:59 AM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema

Sadly, Obama will never be called on this by anyone in the media.

But then again, Democrats have a death wish. It’s evident by the fact they want to Obama to be president.


2 posted on 10/16/2008 5:47:39 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: cpforlife.org; MHGinTN; Caleb1411; wagglebee; Salvation
At least McCain challenged Obama during the debate. The incurious media will, as usual, sedulously ignore anything that sheds the light of truth on their messiah.

“Senator Obama, as a member of the Illinois State Senate, voted in the Judiciary Committee against a law that would provide immediate medical attention to a child born of a failed abortion. He voted against that,” McCain said.

“And then, on the floor of the State Senate, as he did 130 times as a state senator, he voted present,” McCain explained.

“Then there was another bill before the Senate Judiciary Committee in the state of Illinois not that long ago, where he voted against a ban on partial-birth abortion, one of the late-term abortion, a really -- one of the bad procedures, a terrible. And then, on the floor of the Illinois State Senate, he voted present,” McCain added.

“I don’t know how you vote ‘present’ on some of that,” he said. “I don’t know how you align yourself with the extreme aspect of the pro- abortion movement in America. And that’s his record, and that’s a matter of his record.”

“It was clear-cut votes that Senator Obama voted, I think, in direct contradiction to the feelings and views of mainstream America,” McCain concluded.

3 posted on 10/16/2008 5:48:53 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

I was writing the same observation as you were posting yours. Whether it’s an embrace of death or a coveting of government handouts, a whole lot of Americans are willing to make a Faustian bargain with Obama.


4 posted on 10/16/2008 5:51:20 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

Obama lied bigtime on the abortion issue.


5 posted on 10/16/2008 5:51:38 AM PDT by Biggirl (Throw The Bums OUT!=^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: rhema

Thanks for that information.

Thank GOD Senator McCain took this death dealer to task on the horror of the vote against little babies born alive after botched abortions.

My bet is millions who watched had NEVER heard of Obommunism’s votes on this issue.

Pray they will get out and research it and find out the facts.

God save us from thie merchant of death.


6 posted on 10/16/2008 5:51:59 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (We are now living in AMERIKA thanks to Comrade Obama's promised Communistic Changes in Missouri)
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To: rhema

We could tell... His lips were moving the whole time.


7 posted on 10/16/2008 5:52:20 AM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

This has gotten so little attention and while I was glad that McCain had brought it up in the debate last night, I’m sure there were a lot of people out there that did not comprehend the true extent of Obama’s stance.

I challenge people to ask others what they think of the Born Alive Infant Act. Most will not know much about it and they will be horrified when you explain to them exactly what it is.


8 posted on 10/16/2008 5:53:46 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: rhema

I also wished McCain would have told the public that Obama wants our tax dollars to go to funding abortion.


9 posted on 10/16/2008 5:55:37 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: rhema

McCain’s challenge of 0bama’s true stance on abortion was weak, weak, weak. How he failed to hammer 0bama’s support of the Freedom of Choice Act is beyond me.


10 posted on 10/16/2008 5:56:31 AM PDT by grellis (SISTERHOOD OF SARAH God. Guns. Hockey.)
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To: rhema

Jim Lehrer (Disgraced PBS, Democrat): "Lying? Who cares. We will never report it.
Perhaps you did not get the memo.
The Messiah-Obama may lie because he is our chosen
AND because he is a Democrat. Now, how many of Gwen Ifill's book
on Obama's glorious upcoming-for-certain January 2009 Coronation, I mean, Inauguration would you like?"

11 posted on 10/16/2008 5:57:14 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: panthermom

“Senator 0bama supports the horrific practices of partial birth abortion and allowing born alive infants to die on the table - AND he is going to force you to pay for it.”


12 posted on 10/16/2008 5:58:51 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: rhema

“Obama Lied During Debate “

In other news, the sun rose today.


13 posted on 10/16/2008 6:03:38 AM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult is the soundtrack to the Revolution.)
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To: rhema

http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/10/obama_lied_abou.html#trackbacks


14 posted on 10/16/2008 6:08:40 AM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
Sadly, Obama will never be called on this by anyone in the media.

That's all that I keep thinking.

When you look at the ancient Mayans and Canaanite societies, where infanticide was an integral part of their culture, you have to ask yourself, are we any better?

15 posted on 10/16/2008 6:09:29 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Salamander

Here is a youtube video (audio only) of Obama arguing against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. His argument is basically “...then ANOTHER doctor has to be called in an emergency situation...” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc


16 posted on 10/16/2008 6:11:31 AM PDT by shatcher
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To: Salamander

As Rush always says, liberals know they can’t win an honest debate...so when lies aren’t even enough to win the hearts and minds of the American people, use a government bought-and-paid-for organization like ACORN to stuff the ballot boxes.


17 posted on 10/16/2008 6:11:34 AM PDT by Stayfree (i)
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To: rhema

It’s in the Illinois State Assembly Records and Obama is on record speaking against the passage of the bill. He didn’t just vote, he spoke about why he voted the way he did. I wish I could remember the number. S.B. ,,,,? I’ll try to find it.


18 posted on 10/16/2008 6:11:56 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: rhema
The Chicago-area nurse who exposed the practice of life-birth abortions that led to he bill Barack Obama repeatedly opposed in the Illinois legislature says Obama lied about his record during the final presidential debate.

Well, of course he did, as he did in every other debate. Obama only speaks truth when his tongue 'slips' like it did with Joe the Plumber. Too bad so many sheeple are being sucked in by 'that one'.

19 posted on 10/16/2008 6:20:34 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Given the costs of his free health care, look for O to demand no care be given to the elderly, who would no doubt die sooner rather than later anyway.

We can’t be inconveniencing their families.


20 posted on 10/16/2008 6:20:46 AM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............but does have a bracelet!!!!)
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