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DUmmies Begin to Hunker Down (Full Panic Mode)
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Posted on 10/16/2008 7:11:15 AM PDT by DrHannibalLecter

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To: Red Badger

SOME MAYBE, BUT NOT THE LIBS INFESTED AT DU - THEY ARE BOTTOM-FEEDERS LIVING ON WELFARE, which is why they hate their lives so much. Lack of drive or success makes them mad as hell. Big government is their answer. These cockroaches are truly pathetic people. (Iiiik!)


41 posted on 10/16/2008 4:49:30 PM PDT by heatherlund (Get OUT and VOTE for McCain if you LOVE your Country!)
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To: heatherlund

Yes, I do...and they accuse us of being diseased minds...well, all I have to say is...if this is a disease...please don’t bother with a cure, because if you found it, then it’s not worth it.


42 posted on 10/16/2008 6:30:33 PM PDT by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: Calpernia

If you are referring to awarding electoral votes based upon who wins the most votes nationwide it does not go into effect unless all or almost all states go along. It is true that electors can vote for any eligible candidate as long as P and VP are from different states.


43 posted on 10/16/2008 8:53:09 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: heatherlund

Wow.


44 posted on 10/16/2008 8:56:42 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Red Badger
Even liberals have 401(k) plans and IRA’s. People vote pocketbook issues, always...............

I've been thinking about that for a couple of weeks.

45 posted on 10/16/2008 9:02:19 PM PDT by listenhillary (Should we turn Alaska or Texas into our Galt's Gulch?)
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To: Claud
If they admit that it is an interstate compact, they are screwed from the beginning. Article I, Section 10, Clause 3 of the US Constitution states...

"No State shall, without the Consent of Congressenter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."

These idiots should know that little piece of information. What surprises me is the number of morons who don't know it.
46 posted on 10/16/2008 9:05:33 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (I'm MissouriConservative and I approved this message.)
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To: Calpernia
A Constitutional Amendment would be required to elect the President by popular vote.
Article II

Section 1. The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:

Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.


47 posted on 10/16/2008 9:47:31 PM PDT by jellybean (Write in Fred! - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: MrB
Just WHO do these people “pray” to?


48 posted on 10/16/2008 11:14:39 PM PDT by uglybiker (1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d 2 g3t l41d)
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To: jellybean

They [states] are pre pledging the electoral votes. They don’t need an amendment to do that. There is no law stating how the electors cast their vote.

Here is the links that go to each’s states legislatures

http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/pages/statesactivity.php


49 posted on 10/17/2008 5:25:21 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: arrogantsob

>>> it does not go into effect unless all or almost all states go along.

It is not the amount of the states, it is the number of electors. They are at 187 electors now with 8 more states that are on board for signing. I’m still looking to see what those totals will be when I figure out what the 8 additional states are.


50 posted on 10/17/2008 5:28:24 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

Electors are secondary to the State decisions. Since the vote has not occurred the electors are not even known much less “pledged” to a candidate. This won’t effect this year’s election and historically would change maybe two elections in the 221 years the nation has been under the Constitution. I cannot see any small state, even blue ones, going along with this step which is completely legal even if it negates the concept of federalism which the Founders established.


51 posted on 10/17/2008 9:46:06 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: arrogantsob

You are wrong. You didn’t read the it. The total elecs that are pledged to the popular vote are 187. If the remaining states sign, which 8 have passed house and senate, it may be 270. It is for this election if they reach 270. Read the legs, don’t assume.


52 posted on 10/17/2008 10:08:13 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
You are wrong.

I be wong, too. They don't have anywhere near the 187 number and even if all 57 states adopted it tomorrow, it would not affect this election in the slightest.

It does serve a useful purpose in keeping you stewing.

53 posted on 10/17/2008 10:59:14 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP! It's gonna be a BIG one.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

The states that have signed the bills have 187 electorals between them. There are 8 that can be signed by November.


54 posted on 10/17/2008 11:05:18 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: MissouriConservative

There are all manner of agreements, and associations between the states.


55 posted on 10/17/2008 11:09:35 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Calpernia
The states that have adopted this have 50 electoral votes. There are none that could be signed by November and it wouldn't matter anyway.


Pssst. I'll give you a little hint: July 20

56 posted on 10/17/2008 11:17:19 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP! It's gonna be a BIG one.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Are you intentionally trying to cover this up? California alone has 55 electoral votes. What is your agenda?


57 posted on 10/17/2008 11:41:34 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
Schwartznegger vetoed it...again.

My agenda is to keep the Republican Party on an even keel. I am going to dig a hole and cover up every dog turd that you drag in here.

58 posted on 10/17/2008 11:57:29 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP! It's gonna be a BIG one.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Bringing awareness to override our election process is a turd?

Yes he vetoed it; but there was an article on Progressive State saying they were overriding and cited the success of Hawaii’s override. That article is now pulled and I can’t cite it now.

But if you feel protecting our elections is something you need to dig a hole and cover up, why not just hit abuse and call the admin over to delete my turds?


59 posted on 10/17/2008 1:19:12 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
This is not even a distant threat. Even if every state in the union approved it tomorrow, it would not take effect until the 2012 election. It has a provision that says states with a majority of electoral votes must approve it by July 20 of the election year in order to effect the compact.

And every state is not going to adopt it. It is attractive only to the loony left.

60 posted on 10/17/2008 4:05:13 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP! It's gonna be a BIG one.)
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