Posted on 10/16/2008 12:54:28 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
My goal is disruption.
They point back, we reorganize.
Count me in. If Jim will allow it, it’d be great to be a group within a group on FR.
I know what you mean. I keep two things posted on my desk. A list of all the logical fallacies and a print out of the U.S. Army’s Operations Field Manual No. 33 of Propaganda Techniques. I think these are a must for political junkies/ FReepers, and I’m pretty sure most politicians from both sides use the propaganda techniques a LOT.
Ever notice how politicians never answer the exact question they’re asked? Straight out of the propaganda techniques handbook.
Like Rush says, “never let the other side force you to accept their premise in the first place.”
I have an unfocused idea.
I am a task-specific leader (an engineer). If people have some concrete ideas of who, what, when and where or want to take over, please do so.
No egos here.
1) Always remain polite, calm, and collected - Your anger and rudeness can be used against you.
2) Stay focused - Liberals will try to change the subject. If that doesn't work, they'll "uh.....uh....uh...." ( Oboma uses this one all the time) until the listener forgets what the subject actually was.
3) Be persistent - Keep bringing them, politely and calmly, back to the subject.
4) NEVER allow yourself to become angry - because personal ridicule will be their last resort. Acknowledge their right to their own opinion, and once again bring them back to the original subject.
5) Use their iown set of rules against as often as possible - When they become enraged, THEIR anger can then be used against them.
Thank you. I’ve been doing the same thing here in Alaska.
Alinsky didn’t understand that his rules CAN be used against him as well as for him. Implementing those rules can be done with truthfulness and honor. Here are a few examples that I’ve done in the past several years:
- Whenever I’m confronted with an affirmative action statement, I always check “other” and write in “human being.”
- When I meet a liberal who complains about Christians, I tell them that they need to be tolerant of diverse viewpoints.
- Whenever someone calls McCain old or stupid or forgetful, I call them out for bigotry and hatred against the old or call it “elder abuse.”
- If a liberal tells me that they’re confused, I just roll my eyes and tell them that “you just don’t get it.”
- When a gay rights activist tells me that they deserve the “right” to marry, I tell them they have no right to impose their morality on other people who disagree with them.
And on and on. Use their words back at them. Never give up. Use humor and ridicule. Alinsky isn’t for leftists any more.
Keep up the good fight.
The ideal recruits are people with time on their hands:
Retirees and college students.
I know my mom in that category.
“We can make their lives miserable”
Oh, lets do!
Small things are good.
I want front page news.
A truckload of horse sh!t dumped in the lobby of Newsweak in Manahattan, for example.
Clever stuff, non-violent. Make them laughstocks.
Newsweek
251 W. 57th St.
New York, NY 10019 (Map)
Phone: 212-445-4000
Fax: 212-445-4425
Or their underlying presuppositions.
"If you were a good mother, you would ______."
So if you don't agree with them, you're a bad mother!
"Even a person like you would _____."
So if you don't agree with them, you have a huge L written on your forehead!
"Everyone agrees that _____"
Who is this "everyone" they're talking about?
Watch for the beginning of those sentences. "If you really cared , you would____." If you don't, then you obviously don't care.
This is called rhetoric. Men are often very good at hearing it, but woman usually don't catch on. It's a form of verbal manipulation or abuse.
It took ten years, but I got my 70 yo mother to switch from being a life-long democrat to a Republican this year. It was a huge leap for her.
Now I’m working on my 95 yo Grandfather!
I agree. Egos won’t help us here. Leftist groups are very interlinked even if you don’t always see the link. There are no doubt pressure points if you can find them. It’s always about finding the cracks.
I won’t say much more here. Expect a freepmail here in a few.
I used to drive my openly gay RINO congressman crazy by asking him Yes/No questions and then, after he tapdanced around his talking points, making him actually answer yes or no. I would always craft the question to cause him the most embarassment when he answered it in a way that would further reveal his liberal mindset. It used to infuriate him and turn many people against him. His townhalls, right before he announced his retirements, had turned into screaming matches and protests with local Republicans leading the attacks against him.
Liberals have no foresight. Debate consequences rather than agendas. You'll put them outside their expertise.
Watch for the beginning of those sentences. "If you really cared , you would____." If you don't, then you obviously don't care.
is the Insinuation Technique and uses the insinuation device known as, ta-da!..a Leading Question. This where the "propagandist may ask questions which suggest only one possible answer..." right out of the manual.
Sigh...good times. Snort!
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I agree with the ideas here. Get people together and use directed, concentrated effort to fight them tooth and nail like they do to us. It doesn’t make us “radicals.” And unlike them, we don’t need to lie about everything always.
I’ve been thinking for a while that the way to take things back is not to try to rely on the individual states to nominate good conservatives and back them against the particularly destructive members of Congress from their state. There just are not enough resources and concentration to mount serious efforts across the entire country with every election.
Instead, perhaps, conservatives across the country should focus on a few specific representatives and senators and have everyone from all over pour their resources and effort into knocking those people out in whatever state they’re in. Picking off two or three every two years. These individuals have great influence and destructive potential on a national level so I say they’re fair game to everyone. The diffused effort approach is not working.
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