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Alinsky's Rules for Radicals [A Modest Proposal of Revenge]
Public Relations Strategies ^ | August 4, 200 | Craig Miyamoto

Posted on 10/16/2008 12:54:28 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan

Conservatives are, IMHO, soon to be in the decided and percecuted minority. It is accordingly time to utilize methods from the Radical Left playbook "Rules for Radicals" to further our agenda.

My suggested targets are: Harry Reid (vulnerable), the owners of Google (soft and naive), and the president of Time Warner (useful).

Here are the Rules:

RULE 1: "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have." Power is derived from 2 main sources - money and people. "Have-Nots" must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)

RULE 2: "Never go outside the expertise of your people." It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don't address the "real" issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)

RULE 3: "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy." Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

RULE 4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity's very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)

RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)

RULE 6: "A good tactic is one your people enjoy." They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They're doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid "un-fun" activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)

RULE 7: "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)

RULE 8: "Keep the pressure on. Never let up." Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)

RULE 9: "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself." Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists' minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)

RULE 10: "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive." Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management's wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)

RULE 11: "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative." Never let the enemy score points because you're caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; alinsky; alinskytactics; alyniski; democrats; dncplaybook; elections; nobama08; obama; rulesforradicals; wolverines
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Discuss. (I am dead serious about this, BTW.)
1 posted on 10/16/2008 12:54:29 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: MeanWestTexan

umm. No.

I believe that good prevails over evil and the truth wins in the end.


2 posted on 10/16/2008 12:56:14 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (A true patriot must always be willing to defend his country...against its government...)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

So do I.

But I recall even reading Arch Angel Michael and his army having to wield a sword in the very halls of Heaven to rid it of evil.

Time for war. And all is fair, in war.


3 posted on 10/16/2008 12:58:57 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
To stop Obama patriots should lie, cheat, steal, deceive, and take every advantage.

4 posted on 10/16/2008 12:59:36 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Alinsky’s stuff is getting outdated. There are plenty of countertactics to counter their tactics. You can use their tactics against them if you know what you’re doing.


5 posted on 10/16/2008 1:03:46 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! (You can vote Democrat when you're dead)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Reagan never needed “rules” like that.


6 posted on 10/16/2008 1:03:53 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares (Refusing to kneel before the polling gods and whimper.)
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To: I see my hands

Perhaps.

Lying, cheating, and stealing are not really necessary. How about:

1 Dump truckloads of time magazine and newsweak in front of Time to protest biased coverage. Give a list of demands.

2. Pester the board at their homes and places of business.

3. Pick one really foul reporter and harass him/her constantly.

etc.


7 posted on 10/16/2008 1:04:06 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

That’s great. I’m not talking about Reagan, or the RNC.

I am talking grass-roots revenge.

Bring it to the liberal establisment.

They are in power; therefore these tactics work.


8 posted on 10/16/2008 1:05:37 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
YAY! I'm so glad people are FINALLY talking about this. The left has been doing this for years, but no one seemed to care.

Will the Republican politicians please WAKE UP! Sheesh.

9 posted on 10/16/2008 1:05:53 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: MeanWestTexan

Stupid wife blew it.

http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/08/michelle_obama_4.php


10 posted on 10/16/2008 1:07:29 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: concerned about politics

Thank you.

I am looking for recruits.

We do this already on a disorganized level -— “Freeps” -— we did it TO GREAT EFFECT DURING the “RECOUNT” IN FLORIDA.

I tend to think a “radical uniform” of kaki pants, white shirt, red tie, and blue blazer would be funny as hell.


11 posted on 10/16/2008 1:08:20 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I can’t even send a FReep mail with what’s swimming in my gray matter.


12 posted on 10/16/2008 1:10:23 PM PDT by wastedyears (Another October 14th, another year older.)
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To: Free Vulcan
You can use their tactics against them if you know what you’re doing.

: Isn't that what the Texan is saying here?

13 posted on 10/16/2008 1:10:44 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

14 posted on 10/16/2008 1:14:26 PM PDT by wastedyears (Another October 14th, another year older.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
I am looking for recruits.

I always use their OWN rules against THEM. Tolerance for right wing special interest groups in the name of "fairness" and "equal opportunity.". Birth and ultrasound organizations next to an abortion clinic to offer REAL "choice" etc.

It's easy to use their own rules against them. How can they argue against themselves?

15 posted on 10/16/2008 1:16:49 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: subterfuge

Not exactly. I don’t use Alinsky tactics so much as I have found their weaknesses and know how to counter them with different ones.


16 posted on 10/16/2008 1:17:03 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! (You can vote Democrat when you're dead)
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To: wolfcreek

I know, and she reminded me of the book I had to read at MIT for some stupid poly sci class.

Time to put it to work.

We can make their lives miserable, probably at the taxpayer’s expense.


17 posted on 10/16/2008 1:20:15 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: wastedyears

Feel free.


18 posted on 10/16/2008 1:20:59 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: wastedyears

I concur.

Our name shall be “Wolverines”


19 posted on 10/16/2008 1:22:13 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: concerned about politics; MeanWestTexan

c.a.p. pretty much has nailed the root principle here. the main problem is leftists are projectionists - they are always trying to point the finger at you, keep the spotlight on you, etc., and that is their Achilles heel.

Point the finger at them and their whole house of cards falls down. The best way to do this is to hold them to their own rules and point out their hypocrisy. You use their own momentum against themselves.

Judo is the best tactic against Alinsky.


20 posted on 10/16/2008 1:23:26 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! (You can vote Democrat when you're dead)
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To: Free Vulcan

My goal is disruption.

They point back, we reorganize.


21 posted on 10/16/2008 1:24:48 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Count me in. If Jim will allow it, it’d be great to be a group within a group on FR.


22 posted on 10/16/2008 1:24:58 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! (You can vote Democrat when you're dead)
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To: Free Vulcan

I know what you mean. I keep two things posted on my desk. A list of all the logical fallacies and a print out of the U.S. Army’s Operations Field Manual No. 33 of Propaganda Techniques. I think these are a must for political junkies/ FReepers, and I’m pretty sure most politicians from both sides use the propaganda techniques a LOT.

Ever notice how politicians never answer the exact question they’re asked? Straight out of the propaganda techniques handbook.

Like Rush says, “never let the other side force you to accept their premise in the first place.”


23 posted on 10/16/2008 1:25:51 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Free Vulcan

I have an unfocused idea.

I am a task-specific leader (an engineer). If people have some concrete ideas of who, what, when and where or want to take over, please do so.

No egos here.


24 posted on 10/16/2008 1:28:23 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: Free Vulcan
Not exactly. I don’t use Alinsky tactics so much as I have found their weaknesses and know how to counter them with different ones.

1) Always remain polite, calm, and collected - Your anger and rudeness can be used against you.

2) Stay focused - Liberals will try to change the subject. If that doesn't work, they'll "uh.....uh....uh...." ( Oboma uses this one all the time) until the listener forgets what the subject actually was.

3) Be persistent - Keep bringing them, politely and calmly, back to the subject.

4) NEVER allow yourself to become angry - because personal ridicule will be their last resort. Acknowledge their right to their own opinion, and once again bring them back to the original subject.

5) Use their iown set of rules against as often as possible - When they become enraged, THEIR anger can then be used against them.

25 posted on 10/16/2008 1:28:54 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: MeanWestTexan

Thank you. I’ve been doing the same thing here in Alaska.

Alinsky didn’t understand that his rules CAN be used against him as well as for him. Implementing those rules can be done with truthfulness and honor. Here are a few examples that I’ve done in the past several years:
- Whenever I’m confronted with an affirmative action statement, I always check “other” and write in “human being.”
- When I meet a liberal who complains about Christians, I tell them that they need to be tolerant of diverse viewpoints.
- Whenever someone calls McCain old or stupid or forgetful, I call them out for bigotry and hatred against the old or call it “elder abuse.”
- If a liberal tells me that they’re confused, I just roll my eyes and tell them that “you just don’t get it.”
- When a gay rights activist tells me that they deserve the “right” to marry, I tell them they have no right to impose their morality on other people who disagree with them.

And on and on. Use their words back at them. Never give up. Use humor and ridicule. Alinsky isn’t for leftists any more.

Keep up the good fight.


26 posted on 10/16/2008 1:30:19 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: subterfuge

The ideal recruits are people with time on their hands:

Retirees and college students.

I know my mom in that category.


27 posted on 10/16/2008 1:30:19 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

“We can make their lives miserable”

Oh, lets do!


28 posted on 10/16/2008 1:31:52 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: redpoll

Small things are good.

I want front page news.

A truckload of horse sh!t dumped in the lobby of Newsweak in Manahattan, for example.

Clever stuff, non-violent. Make them laughstocks.


29 posted on 10/16/2008 1:32:52 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Newsweek
251 W. 57th St.
New York, NY 10019 (Map)
Phone: 212-445-4000
Fax: 212-445-4425


30 posted on 10/16/2008 1:34:59 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: subterfuge
Like Rush says, “never let the other side force you to accept their premise in the first place.”

Or their underlying presuppositions.

"If you were a good mother, you would ______."
So if you don't agree with them, you're a bad mother!

"Even a person like you would _____."
So if you don't agree with them, you have a huge L written on your forehead!

"Everyone agrees that _____"
Who is this "everyone" they're talking about?

Watch for the beginning of those sentences. "If you really cared , you would____." If you don't, then you obviously don't care.

This is called rhetoric. Men are often very good at hearing it, but woman usually don't catch on. It's a form of verbal manipulation or abuse.

31 posted on 10/16/2008 1:38:39 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: MeanWestTexan

It took ten years, but I got my 70 yo mother to switch from being a life-long democrat to a Republican this year. It was a huge leap for her.

Now I’m working on my 95 yo Grandfather!


32 posted on 10/16/2008 1:39:06 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I agree. Egos won’t help us here. Leftist groups are very interlinked even if you don’t always see the link. There are no doubt pressure points if you can find them. It’s always about finding the cracks.

I won’t say much more here. Expect a freepmail here in a few.


33 posted on 10/16/2008 1:42:17 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! (You can vote Democrat when you're dead)
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To: subterfuge
Ever notice how politicians never answer the exact question they’re asked? Straight out of the propaganda techniques handbook.

I used to drive my openly gay RINO congressman crazy by asking him Yes/No questions and then, after he tapdanced around his talking points, making him actually answer yes or no. I would always craft the question to cause him the most embarassment when he answered it in a way that would further reveal his liberal mindset. It used to infuriate him and turn many people against him. His townhalls, right before he announced his retirements, had turned into screaming matches and protests with local Republicans leading the attacks against him.

34 posted on 10/16/2008 1:44:20 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: Free Vulcan
There are no doubt pressure points if you can find them.

Liberals have no foresight. Debate consequences rather than agendas. You'll put them outside their expertise.

35 posted on 10/16/2008 1:47:24 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics
Great tips. This one:

Watch for the beginning of those sentences. "If you really cared , you would____." If you don't, then you obviously don't care.

is the Insinuation Technique and uses the insinuation device known as, ta-da!..a Leading Question. This where the "propagandist may ask questions which suggest only one possible answer..." right out of the manual.

36 posted on 10/16/2008 1:47:38 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Spiff
His townhalls, right before he announced his retirements, had turned into screaming matches and protests with local Republicans leading the attacks against him.

Sigh...good times. Snort!

37 posted on 10/16/2008 1:49:19 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: redpoll; nanetteclaret

ping


38 posted on 10/16/2008 1:49:27 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: redpoll; nanetteclaret

ping


39 posted on 10/16/2008 1:49:30 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: MeanWestTexan

I agree with the ideas here. Get people together and use directed, concentrated effort to fight them tooth and nail like they do to us. It doesn’t make us “radicals.” And unlike them, we don’t need to lie about everything always.

I’ve been thinking for a while that the way to take things back is not to try to rely on the individual states to nominate good conservatives and back them against the particularly destructive members of Congress from their state. There just are not enough resources and concentration to mount serious efforts across the entire country with every election.

Instead, perhaps, conservatives across the country should focus on a few specific representatives and senators and have everyone from all over pour their resources and effort into knocking those people out in whatever state they’re in. Picking off two or three every two years. These individuals have great influence and destructive potential on a national level so I say they’re fair game to everyone. The diffused effort approach is not working.


40 posted on 10/16/2008 1:49:55 PM PDT by According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
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To: MeanWestTexan

NO WAY.

But everyone should read these “rules” and know what we are up against.

This is why Obama made those mocking smiles last night. When you’re losing, MOCK. RIDICULE.

We need to FIGHT these people, not join them.


41 posted on 10/16/2008 1:51:14 PM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: According2RecentPollsAirIsGood

I agree fully.

Just attack, attack, attack, humiliate.

Liberals won’t be able to handle it.


42 posted on 10/16/2008 1:51:59 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: Yaelle

OK, ignore us (or laugh quietly).

I am going to war.


43 posted on 10/16/2008 1:53:16 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Actually, skiming the rules, methinks Regan DID follow such rules - maybe not deliberately, but he cut thru all the crap his own people threw in his way, and pushed methods & goals that his opponents could not cope with. He excited his base and bewildered his enemies - and won.


44 posted on 10/16/2008 1:56:22 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Just attack, attack, attack, humiliate.

But remember to do it calmly and politely. That'll really pi$$ them off.

45 posted on 10/16/2008 1:56:55 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

“Polite”

Oh, I am serious about the radical Wolverine Dress Uniform being khaki pants, white shirt, red tie, and blue blazer.


46 posted on 10/16/2008 2:01:58 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: boxlunch

>>>ping<<<

Please excuse my lack of knowledge. What’s “ping” mean?


47 posted on 10/16/2008 2:02:51 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: redpoll

You’ve been here since 2000?


48 posted on 10/16/2008 2:05:34 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

>>>You’ve been here since 2000?<<<

But I’m way up here at the edge of the treeline, trying to stay warm, gathering firewood, cutting fish, that kind of thing. What’s “ping” mean?


49 posted on 10/16/2008 2:10:49 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: redpoll

“Ping” is up on top of the header. Just means you have a new post directed to you, a “ping”


50 posted on 10/16/2008 2:19:19 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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