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1 posted on 10/16/2008 10:28:47 PM PDT by Chet 99
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2 posted on 10/16/2008 10:33:35 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Chet 99
Pit bull apologists always sing the same tune

They will be on scene shortly. The breed is a dangerous menace.

3 posted on 10/16/2008 10:34:39 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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Pitbulls shouldn’t be banned. The owners should be held accountable for the actions of their dogs. Pitbulls are well known for being dangerous and it’s common sense to have an arrangement that mitigates the danger to the public. We don’t need any more nannystate intervention from the government.


4 posted on 10/16/2008 10:34:47 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: Chet 99

“should be banned nationally. “

A nanny state government telling us which kind of dogs we are allowed to own? No thanks.


5 posted on 10/16/2008 10:36:32 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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Its not the dog. Its the owner. You need to train a dog to be responsible. Owning a dog is different from owning a cat. A cat is self trained for the most part. A dog needs to be shown what to do.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 10/16/2008 10:45:11 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Bears repeating:

"..at the very least manslaughter charges should be brought against pit bull owners whose dogs kill."


13 posted on 10/16/2008 10:45:38 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Ping to another pit bull thread.

Zombies would rather take their chances on imprisonment than give up their meth lab security.


15 posted on 10/16/2008 10:50:29 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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IIRC pits are 9% of the dawgs and 65% of the maulings,,,

Put em down!...

I posted this on another thread :
~~~
“I think this makes about 18-20 people killed this year,,,

We had a close call last week when I took the yorkie out

in the front,,,

One of the kids next door let one of the pits out the front

door when she went outside,,,

POS dawg ran straight at us,,,couldn’t risk a shot,,,(kids)

We hauled ass back in the house,,,called the cops,,,

The rookie that showed up started tellin’ me all about

“Their” rights to have all the “PETS” they wanted,,,

I asked him to go over and inform them of the leash law,,,

As soon as he knocked on the door all the dawgs in the

house started razzin’ hell,lunging at the door,,,

Our “Hero” went for his gun while tryin’ to back up from

the door,,,nearly fell on his ass,,,(I’m laffin’ by now)

Thug woman got the door open a crack,,,puppies tryin’ to

wiggle out,,,POS dawgs still snarlin’,,,(he’s pissed now)

I don’t know what he told them,,,

Came back in a few red faced and sweating,,,

“I’ll Make A Report!”,,,

Strangely,,,Some of the larger ones chained out back

were Gone a few days later,,,Sold to the crack-heads I

guess,,,

While they were still alive...;0)”
~~~
Only about 15 left now...


16 posted on 10/16/2008 10:51:02 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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A two month old baby was just attacked and killed by a pit bull here as well.

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19 posted on 10/16/2008 10:53:18 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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It IS always the same story...thugs buy a dog, chain it up outside and neglect the crap out of it.

But don’t hold the thugs responsible for the monster they create; don’t hold them responsible when they shoot people either.

Ban the guns.
Ban the dogs.
Ban the little plastic baggies (Chicago’s newest front in the ban-frenzy).


22 posted on 10/16/2008 10:58:32 PM PDT by BobbyT
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Some trashy people and corrupt public officials complain about people carrying these by the homes of pit bull owners--just in case.



But fickle, untrustworthy pit bulls in public cause far more unhealthy avoidance and stress than human beings carrying shotguns. And pit bull owners typically get their beasts for the purpose of making their neighbors fear for their families' lives.

In many areas, it is perfectly legal to openly carry weapons by a residence where dangerous animals are harbored. Be safe. Don't point at anything that you're not about to kill. And ignore the whinings of criminals.


24 posted on 10/16/2008 11:04:05 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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This week in my town four Rottweilers left alone with a young kid, they decided to turn on him for whatever reason. Critical condition in the hospital.


54 posted on 10/17/2008 1:21:20 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Chet 99; familyop; Carling; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Ok lets go with your assumption and ban Pitbulls, in fact lets ban and destroy the top 5 dogs that kill; Pittbulls, Dobermans, Malamutes, Rottwiellers, and German Shepards all banned and destroyed. Then what are you going to do when the next breed because the #1 killer? What about Cocker Spaniels which are the worst as far being a biting breed?

Or is the goal to ban dogs altogether?

Personally I don't like any of the above mentioned dogs with the exception of Malamutes and Cocker Spaniels, but I'm not going to call for their banning/destruction because of human mistreatment,lack of training, or lack of proper supervision. I fully agree that if an animal attacks and kills someone the owner of the animal should be punished and punished severely. But banning the breed(s) will not stop the attacks or deaths.

My dog is an Australian Cattle Dog. He is walked daily off leash (in violation of local laws); is well known throughout the neighborhood and by the police and enjoyed by everyone. Kids in the neighborhood run to greet him when we are out walking and the smallest ones ride him like a pony. He is trained and listens to me at all times. I am the alpha and he understands that the alpha must be obeyed. Another dog approaches and Boomer (his name) listens to me until I tell him differently. Boomer realizes I will protect him from the other dog. Now there is one catch to all this. A human (not a dog,cow,cat, or any other animal) tries to attack me and Boomer will defend his alpha immediately. He will attack unless I tell him to stay. So is this dog bad and dangerous? No he is not. He is doing what his instincts and operative training tell him to do. He has been trained and is supervised by a competent owner. But this training and trust is a daily exercise for both of us. When my brother walks him he has to be on a leash because he will not listen to my brother like he does me.

My good friend had a wolf hybrid that we would walk all the time. Never had a problem, but we were careful with the animal around others and never left him to make his own decision because we knew his instincts would take over. That dog was never a problem in the 12 years my friend owned him.

My point is (and several other posters tried to make the same point) that there is a level of personal responsibility that is being transferred from the people involved (victim and owner) to the animal. The dog only knows what is has been trained to do and its instincts. Dogs do not have the rational thinking capabilities that humans have.

The people who own these dogs that attack humans probably should not own dogs. My experience is these same people probably should not be allowed to reproduce either, but I don't hear you calling for forced sterilization for them.AWB

55 posted on 10/17/2008 1:24:57 AM PDT by Americanwolfsbrother (Its not whether you get knocked down but whether you get back up. Vince Lombardi)
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67 posted on 10/18/2008 12:26:13 AM PDT by Mojave
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