Posted on 10/19/2008 1:06:38 PM PDT by doug from upland
When I built the house I just spent 7 years working on, I had a lot of days that were just plane monotonous, so I would daydream about the Next Great Project as soon as I finished the house...
If you're OCD you know exactly what I am speaking about.
Perhaps it was watching too many reruns of Stollag 17...
Maybe it was all the Underground cabins we built as kids to have a cool place to hide out in the summer.
Truthfully though I just love to build things and when I designed the house I made the bottom level only half the size of the main floor and the other half is a crawlspace about 4 foot high.
Most of my plumbing and stuff runs around the floor joists down there so I wanted enough room to have access to everything but I didn't want to build an eight foot wall, It took me 7 weeks to do the block for the garage workshop and storage room so saving 4 feet of wall seemed like a good idea.
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In a related item, SELECTING A GUN FOR HOME DEFENSE - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2102545/posts
For later.
We’re doomed?
Maybe I’ll go hide under my bed.
Two things that definately do not go together:
1. Building a TOP SECRET Bunker in your Basement
2. Posting plans, photos, and instructions of same on the Internet.
Please don’t tell my 15 year old daughter about this. She is almost too interested in survivalist crap and learning to live off the land. I have already purchased a huge book “Country Wisdom and Knowhow” for a Christmas present. If she finds out she can build a bunker she’ll probably ask her Dad to rent a backhoe.
If we lose the election, we might want spider holes, bunkers, and — you name it. Me? I’ll just hide under the bed.
Let’s win this election. Two weeks left.
Buy more ammo while you can.
Well, nothing wrong with being a good steward to the Earth that G-d called Adam to be. Our girls will be fine, I think.
for later
Hey, I’ve been wanting one but have been claiming it would be a tornado shelter.
If Obama wins, and he clearly stole the election, I will begin preparing. I will stock up on what needs to be gathered, and I will make associations with those of like mind. I will wait and see the nation's response to full-fledged socialist rule. If they progress to Chavez-style, and look ready to make it permanent by suppressing opposition, I will become defiant and work to reverse socialism by whatever means are available.
If he wins and he doesn't cheat, I will work on the political process, but keep an eye out for repression. I don't mind losing a fair fight, so long as we still have a chance to convince our fellow citizens that we have made a terrible mistake. I think they would wake up from their stupor and realize that about a month into an Obama presidency. But that's the point when the thugocracy swings into action, attacking the dissenters, propagandizing with the MSM, shutting down talk radio, sending the FBI after internet posters, until people are afraid to do anything. We have to be ready before that happens.
We are really close to losing our Republic and our Freedom. We can "hope" that Obama is just a naive socialist, a Carter. But I think the reality will prove more sinister, and that we will find he has no respect for this country's people, it's traditions, culture or freedom, and that his main goal is to impose his will, and remake America into a socialist, weak and submissive nation.
Even better would be if McCain can pull this out. We'll find out in a few weeks.
If she does aske her Dad to rent a backhoe, tell her that a secret bunker does not involve records with the rental place and buy her a shovel and pick.
I personally think one should select several guns for home defense - those that are registered and those that don’t exist.
You have a very smart daughter. Personally, I plan on meeting as many survivalists as I can in person, to gauge if they are balanced or off-the-scale wacko. I think we will all need some sort of “quiet” network if Obama wins. I really believe this.
Just about the only real saving grace will be that the rank and file US Armed Forces will not move in lockstep with the Obamaites.
What is the best 12 ga. anti-personnel out to 100 feet? 00 buckshot was recommended in close proximity to nearby houses. I don’t have any houses closer than 200 feet.
You have hit the nail on the head. My wife said she was worried about Obama being President and taking over gestapo style. I asked about her friends who have husbands, brothers, sisters in the military and who they would be supporting. The overwhelming answer was McCain. Here on FreeRepublic we give so much praise to our military, but somehow think these good, brave, mostly Conservative men and women will suddenly turn on us? I have more faith than that.
I don`t look for Noboma to keep funding the military same level as today
Not to mention the “don`t ask don`t tell”
I had a strong interest in all things pioneer and wilderness at that age, too. There was a book I loved called “My Side of the Mountain” by Jean George about a boy who ran away and lived out in the wilderness on his own, in a tree hollowed out by lightning. And I loved the “Foxfire” book series...especially the first one. It was all these interviews with elderly folk up in the Appalachian Mts., and their old ways of living and folk remedies. Really fascinating. The type in Country Living is so small, but it has everything from A-Z.
BHO would do well to abandon any visions of his Marxist paradise. To attempt an implementation would be a catastrophic miscalculation on his part and subject his sycophants to a very grim and dark future.
I was wondering if anyone else would see that illogic. :)
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Get her a couple of foxfire books and you'll be the mom of the century.
I live too much in the suburbs and my house has no basement and is 36 years old. We are, however, looking at “hiding places in the mountains” and starting a gun collection.
Always remember, a bunker without a berm is worthless,
and concertina wire, lots of wire.
Maybe she would find “Living off the land in the city or Country” by Ragnar Benson an interesting read.
I have hopes for my niece, the total urban girl,
she has just started dateing someone who is into camping.
They were supposed to go last weekend on her first camping
trip, I haven’t gotten the after action report but hope
it went ok.
My mom was a city girl unfortunately when my dad took her down to the country to meet his folks he took her fishing
at the pond, she looked real cute in her white shorts but
he forgot to tell her not to sit in the poison oak...
she hates the country to this day. Hope my niece gets off
to a better start.
Here is a stocking stuffer that everyone should read. It is from the daily life of a boy in 1805.
Diary of an Early American Boy: Noah Blake 1805 (Dover Books on Americana) (Paperback)
1. Building a TOP SECRET Bunker in your Basement
2. Posting plans, photos, and instructions of same on the Internet.
Yes, but in the mind of the typical survivalist, paranoia and ego are constantly struggling for the upper hand. ;)
I guess that is an advantage that we in Tornado Alley have. People will just think we're cautious, not kooks. ;-)
#00, low-recoil buckshot. The Fiocchi is best for the price, as far as I know. But #1 buck works better and is a little safer for the neighbors, if you can handle the recoil. ...and still need to be able to hit the targets every time while making sure that the back-range is clear.
00 buck ...three inch mag. Do not aim at that house! :^)
Intersting. To bad I don’t own any type of properity.
Hey, I didn’t write it.
Indeed, perhaps the author has a good sense of humor.
“hiding places in the mountains”
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Nothing for you there. Stay away.
Building a bunker is only a temporary solution. sooner or later the jack boots will find you just like the army found Saddam Hussein. I live on a boat in a place far far away. I am mobile, and can sustain myself without visits to the supermarket. I make, or trap my own water, catch fish, and have a store of non perishable grains, beans, pasta, and canned food. I figure that if all hell breaks loose, I will survive.
My daughter almost bought a house with a bunker a year ago, and lost it to a higher offer. Well, it used to be a bunker. Back in the 50’s, the neighbors on the block helped the then-homeowner build a large bomb shelter-type room under his home. When my daughter looked at it, it had changed hands several times, and the bunker had been converted to a very cool home theater, carpeted from head to toe, with a giant tv and those huge, comfortable theater chairs sprinkled about.
There was no claustophobia feeling whatsoever, the ceiling was quite high and the room was large. I’ll bet there are many homes from that era with those types of rooms.
I think she has checked at least 3 or 4 volume of the “Foxfire” series. She has alot of books with titles like “Civil War” recipes. She likes to knit and wants to learn how to quilt. We all appreciate her uniqueness.
My daughter works at a historical house and museum and we have alot of contact with Civil War buffs and historians. This kid has her own hoops. Its Confederates down where we live and so far they have proven to be lovely people. They really like her, she is well spoken, curious, intelligent kid. Just a bit wacky with all the knitting and antique loving and stuff. If I wasn’t present at her birth, I might think she was some other woman’s child.
“I live on a boat in a place far far away.”
Except if we go to war so does the rest of the world. Thanks for knowing you’ll be there to give a hand and defend this nation from domestic enemies instead of chickening out and fleeing.
P.S. The Navy has surface surveillance systems that can and will spot your boat and ensure you are not lending a hand to the “enemy.”
My 15 yr old granddaughter was just telling me that it was good that we are farmers and know how to grow anything that we need to eat and that we can hunt. I won’t let her read this because we do have a backhoe.
If anyone has any idea about lining off the grid or living without power this place has tons of stuff and a lot of neat stuff their main customer base is Amish type groups enjoy.
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