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Mixed-Level Classes at Evanston High School Defended (Good & Bad students must be in same classes)
Evanston Roundtable ^ | 10/15/08 | Mixed-Level Classes at ETHS Challenged, Defended at PTSA Meeting

Posted on 10/20/2008 9:37:45 AM PDT by prolifefirst

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1 posted on 10/20/2008 9:37:45 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: prolifefirst

Amazing. Obvioulsly the remaining parents that care at the high school will pull their kids out and property values will go down.


2 posted on 10/20/2008 9:46:13 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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Dr. Witherspoon said, “In our 125-year history one of the things that would have to concern all of us is that if you measure it by standardized tests, students of color have not enjoyed the same success overall that the white kids have enjoyed at this school.”

It really shows when nearly 100% of the BLACKS VOTE FOR THE OBOMINATION!

BLACKS have the SAME BOOKS.

BLACKS have the SAME ACCESS for HELP and STILL

BLACKS CHOOSE TO FAIL!


3 posted on 10/20/2008 9:46:25 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: prolifefirst

“just keep lowering the standards...”


4 posted on 10/20/2008 9:46:39 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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To: prolifefirst

“Administrators have taken steps recently to expand mixed-level classes to provide more opportunity for minority students to be exposed to honors-level work.”

It makes NO SENSE AT ALL

EXCEPT

to DEPRIVE WHITES from GETTING AHEAD.

They want to DUMB DOWN WHITES to the PACE of those that are DUMB and STUPID.


5 posted on 10/20/2008 9:47:49 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: prolifefirst

This is the kind of kill the goose and get the last egg now approach that we’ll get more of on a national level if the liberal sunami materializes.


6 posted on 10/20/2008 9:47:49 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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Another remarked, “To make the argument that this is going to be of great benefit to the higher-achieving students is not a common-sense argument.”

THANK YOU!


7 posted on 10/20/2008 9:49:19 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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"We know there are kids that are not meeting standards and we have to put the resources there. You only have a limited amount of resources and you have to put the resources in the kids that are not meeting the standards."

And therein lies the problem with government, in a nutshell: keep throwing resources where they are almost guaranteed to do very little good, just so some socialist can feel good about himself. Meanwhile, good students, who may actually one day return something worthwhile to society, are neglected.

8 posted on 10/20/2008 9:51:55 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: areukiddingme1; nmh

Evanston is near the centr of Obama country.

You cannot spend 20 minutes in the town without hearing Obama propaganda.


9 posted on 10/20/2008 9:54:03 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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We’ve been dealing with this at my 11 year old 6th grade twin daughters’ private school.

One of my twins is gifted and bright in every area.

My other twin is special needs. She is gifted in math, but she is slow at reading and she is not great at writing.

They are both get bombarded with lots of homework. My gifted daughter is really having trouble keeping up.

I don’t mind that my gifted daughter is given lots of homework. She’ll eventually be able to figure out how to handle everything, and it’s good for her to learn how to work hard because so far everything has been easy for her.

However, my special needs daughter doesn’t need the pressure. She performs at grade level (in everything but math), but not above. I don’t want her to be overwhelmed by homework. It’s not even really going to help her. Reading out loud to me is about the main thing that would help her, and she doesn’t have time to do that. She also needs to have a life. She’s wants to play sports, and that’s a very good thing for her.

In elementary school, the private school had a program for dyslexic students and that’s why we picked the school. Now, in middle school they have just abandoned the dyslexic students.

What really irritates me is that my daughter just can’t keep up with the amount of work that is given. She’s not fast enough. The homework grades are not great because she can’t complete the work. However, she still is managing to pull As on tests. What’s more important: finishing homework or doing well on tests? I thought the purpose of homework was to prepare them for tests.

I’m beginning to wonder if we need to put my daughter back in public school. However, there are so many other issues in public school (misbehaving kids, too large, etc).

I hate forcing all kids to perform at the same level. Some kids just can’t.


10 posted on 10/20/2008 9:55:39 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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Oh by all means, let’s go ahead and tether the brightest, most motivated students to the slowest and least motivated, and see how that works out, especially for math and the hard sciences!! Yes, let’s ensure mediocrity rules the day, and no one achieves any more than anyone else — dragging down the whole. That is what this entire argument is about.


11 posted on 10/20/2008 9:56:00 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: prolifefirst
It figures.

The only way they can drag the dumb/stupid ones along is to work in groups. Scatter the smart ones that will do ALL the work at a slowed down pace and lift the dumb/stupid ones UP through that. In educrat circles it is known as comparative learning. INDIVIDUAL responsibility and grades cannot work in their ridiculous scenario.

12 posted on 10/20/2008 9:56:58 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: prolifefirst

As the government schools continue to wrestle with the political correctness of lowest common denominator, parents who love their children need to make other arrangements. What caring parent would send her child to a school like this one?


13 posted on 10/20/2008 10:03:56 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: luckystarmom; 3AngelaD; nmh

Be thankful that your school at least has the courage to give bad grades.

My high-school-drop-out friend has been taking courses at the “best” community college in the entire Chicago Metro Area (Oakton in DesPlains and Skokie), and every student gets an “A” no matter how much work and how stupid/ignorant they are, most especially if they are black.

My friends hard won “A’s” are rendered meaningless.


14 posted on 10/20/2008 10:07:03 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: Lancey Howard
What caring parent would send her child to a school like this one?

Misguided ones with Obama yard signs.

15 posted on 10/20/2008 10:08:48 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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I spent two years at ETHS (almost 40 years ago). I cannot imagine how the place can function with “blended” classes.

At ETHS, the difference between higher level students (e.g., those taking advanced honors courses) and lower level students (e.g., many of whom are functionally illiterate) is more extreme than many can imagine.

Even the far lefties will protest if they think their kids will be at a disadvantage in getting into a top university. With property taxes so high, the private school alternative is only practical for a small minority of families.

If the School Superintendent continues on this path, there will be an exodus of upper middle class (Black and White) families to adjoining suburbs.


16 posted on 10/20/2008 10:09:00 AM PDT by neocon1984
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At my son’s private high school, they have honors classes. An A in the honors class is worth 5 points, and an A in the regular class is worth 4 points. The honors classes require much more work then the regular classes.

I like that system so much better. In that system, my gifted daughter could sign up for honors classes and be rewarded for her hard work. My special needs daughter would just sign up for the regular class. She would probably get an A or B in the regular class, and she wouldn’t feel like a dummy. She’d be doing grade level work, but not above grade level work. I’m okay with that.


17 posted on 10/20/2008 10:12:01 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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Misguided ones with Obama yard signs.

I think those are the ones who think their children will get smarter by sitting next to smart kids.

18 posted on 10/20/2008 10:13:11 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: luckystarmom

My son is pretty bright and very dilligent and hard-working. He is working his butt off in a middle school that caters to his type. He gets great grades, but we try to tell him not to stress over it too much as even without straight “A”s he is getting a great education.

I wish that my two younger twin daughters would be able to handle it, but I don’t think so. The fall-back is they can take AP classes in middle school so that will help.

I had friends that were super-smart in high school that just weren’t pushed and engaged hard enough. Of course they were the ones that got in trouble!


19 posted on 10/20/2008 10:15:59 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: prolifefirst

FYI...while Evanston is on the North Shore, it does NOT resemble the other nothern suburbs (I grew up there but went to private school a few burbs away)

There are some pretty funky and scary parts of Evanston. I don’t think my brother used the school bathroom at ETHS more than a handful of times in his 4 years there because of the gang and race related issues and tensions.

Don’t get me wrong, it can be a great school to get an education, but they grapple with poverty, disinterested parents and crime...they are a mini-Chicago public school


20 posted on 10/20/2008 10:16:28 AM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich (I AM Sarah Palin! And I am married to Joe the plumber!)
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