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Hawai’i Supreme Court asked to issue emergency writ opening secret Obama birth files
Contrarian Commentary ^ | ANDY MARTIN

Posted on 10/20/2008 6:11:16 PM PDT by T Ruth

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To: ChurtleDawg
I think this is a waste of time

Any time "wasted" could have been prevented by Obama's compliance.

201 posted on 10/21/2008 9:28:23 AM PDT by taraytarah
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To: NOBAMA in 08

What the heck is Obama HUSSEIN hiding from AMERICA????
We cant even get a straight answer on where the Sh*thead was born?
We cant even get a straight answer on the Sh*thead’s school records?
We now KNOW BEYOND A SHADOW OF DOUBT THAT AN UNREPENTANT AMERICAN TERRORIST, WILLIAM AYER’S, GHOSTWROTE OBAMA’S FLAGSHIP MEMOIR, “DREAMS FROM MY FATHER!”making Obama even a bigger FRAUD than We had believed before.
THE AD tomorrow should be: “OBAMA, WHER ARE YOUR BIRTH RECORDS?? STOP THE CRAP AND TURN THEM LOOSE NOW!!”
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THIS IS SURREAL. THIS IS JAW-DROPPING, STUPIFYING!
A MAN RUNNING FOR THE PRESIDENCY OF THE FREE WORLD,
AND WHO WILL HAVE HIS THUMB ON THE NUKE BUTTON
WON’T PROVIDE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO PROVE HE’S CONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED- AND NOBODY IN AUTHORITY WILL MAKE HIM???
WHAT IN THE H*LL IS GOING ON HERE??


202 posted on 10/21/2008 10:00:09 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: verga

touche


203 posted on 10/21/2008 11:24:27 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: everyone

Since when has a candidate been more shrouded with lies, deceit, corruption, lies....oh did I already say that?


204 posted on 10/21/2008 11:57:16 AM PDT by JOQ001
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To: taraytarah
Any time "wasted" could have been prevented by Obama's compliance.

And you think Obama cares about the wasted time of Corsi, Berg and everyone else on that wagon? Do you honestly think there are any serious number of voters who would change their vote if only he produced his birth certificate? Would you?

205 posted on 10/21/2008 2:13:39 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: ChurtleDawg
I am not sure why people on this site take people like this Andy Martin and Phillip Berg seriously. Berg, for example, tried to sue Bush and Cheney for blowing up the WTC on 9/11. This Andy Martin guy is apparently a pretty nutty one as well.

I am not sure that people on this site do take Andy Martin or Phillip Berg seriously. However, I think they are starting to take this issue seriously.

As far as I can tell, Obama has a legit birth certificate and I have even seen clips on the internet announcing his birth from an issue of the Honolulu Register circa 1961.

How can you tell? I assume you have not seen a birth certificate for Obama. I have seen pixels on a computer screen which could be interpreted as depicting a birth certificate, but that is not the same thing as seeing a birth certificate. Further, I have seen some cogent comments tending to the conclusion that the image of a birth certificate which Obama's staff posted on the internet has been edited or tampered with. I really can't tell, but what raises questions is that Obama should be able to put this matter to bed quickly and easily, but he has not done so.

As to the clips on the internet which you mention, can you post a link?

As far as I can tell, with his mother being a natural born citizen and his dad being a legal emigre, that no one can seriously claim that he was not an american citizen at birth.

The exact meaning of the phrase "natural born citizen" in the Constitution has not been tested before. Many people are arguing that the meaning can be taken from the statute which was in effect at the time Obama was born. However, I am dubious of this. I do not think that a statute can amend the Constitution. The term has its own meaning within the Constitution, and Congress cannot change that meaning by statute.

But the fact remains, no one has showed any real evidence that he was not born inside the territory of the United States.

In fact, there is such evidence, even though I would not regard it as conclusive. I understand that there are hearsay statements allegedly by members of Obama's father's family that Obama was born in Kenya, and that he was taken to Hawaii shortly after birth and his birth "registered" there. Apparently, there is also a statement by Obama that he traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport. In any event, once the question is raised, the burden is on Obama to show that he meets the Constitutional requirement for the office he is seeking.

206 posted on 10/21/2008 3:28:58 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
No one should have to waste their time looking up facts on the one who thinks he is above the law. Had he been vetted initially, it is my belief he wouldn't be on the ticket. If he is finally forced to produce it and can't, then votes won't matter. How our courts handle it will.
207 posted on 10/21/2008 4:01:07 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: LibertyRocks; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT

Seeing as Obama is going to be “off the campaign” trail to visit his sick Grandmother for the next two days - it makes me seriously wonder...<<<

There are a lot of us helping you “seriously wonder”.

My first thought was that he wanted to be out of town when the court date came up today, so the attorney could ask for it to be held until after the election.

Thanks for the pings.


208 posted on 10/21/2008 4:10:37 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: SeaHawkFan
The burden is lawfully on Obama to prove he is qualified under the U.S. Constitution.

Obama doesn't have to do squat. Again - what standing does this guy have? probably none. This is going nowhere.

209 posted on 10/21/2008 4:18:55 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: robtrml

If he’s bogus, does the he think the media will give him a pass after the election? On second thought the probably will. Who will speak up if they worry about the hulking shadows over their bed one night. This whole deal is going to turn into something very gross. Obama doesn’t have the judeo-christian ethic base to guide his decisions. He purely machavellian. People will intimidate, maim and kill in his name. He’s going for pure political power, the likes we haven’t seen since Roosevelt or more accurately, Lincoln.


210 posted on 10/21/2008 5:07:50 PM PDT by kinghorse (Idiocracy has arrived)
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To: plain talk

Requirements contained in the U.S. Constitution are mandatory and a citizen has a constitutional right to have a constitutionally qualified person as president.


211 posted on 10/21/2008 7:16:02 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan
Requirements contained in the U.S. Constitution are mandatory and a citizen has a constitutional right to have a constitutionally qualified person as president

It doesn't say anything in the Constitution about a candidate having to specifically provide anything. Presidential candidates have not been submitting birth certificates in order to run for office. Name one case. So if you wish to challenge it in court at this point - go ahead and lets see how far you get. Out of all the smart people in this country so far no one has made a dent on this issue thus far. Its hard to believe from my perspective but here we are.

212 posted on 10/21/2008 8:44:01 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

“Obama doesn’t have to do squat.”

The comments on this thread about burden of proof have to do with what Obama should be required to do logically and morally, and one might also say legally. The failure of the responsible authorities to require reasonable proof doesn’t alter the fact that it is the candidate who ought to be able to prove his ability to meet the requirements. No voter should have to sue and endure endless procedural delays and difficulties. It shouldn’t be their burden.


213 posted on 10/22/2008 7:34:12 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: T Ruth

Did Andy fall into a Black Hole! Does anybody have access to the suit Andy filed in the Hawaiian court system?


214 posted on 10/22/2008 9:27:48 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama stands for The New United Socialist State or "TNUSSA")
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To: plain talk
It doesn't say anything in the Constitution about a candidate having to specifically provide anything. Presidential candidates have not been submitting birth certificates in order to run for office. Name one case.

If no one has ever questioned the eligibility of a candidate in earlier elections, that has no impact when the question does arise.

215 posted on 10/22/2008 11:54:57 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Genoa

While I agree with you on the last point from a theoretical standpoint the reality is no Presidental candidates have submitted birth certificates to run for President. There is no process to force Obama to do anything. To me this should have been like the swiftboat situation. There should have been enough internet attention to put pressure on Obama. But that hasn’t happened. We have less than 2 weeks. tick tick tick


216 posted on 10/22/2008 4:09:30 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: All

All these people with the birth cert thing should put up or just shut up.

DEMAND Mccain/Palin fight Obama back! NAME NAMES!
Ayers! Wright! Frank Davis! Odinga!

McCain will NOT attack enough to win the election.

McCain’s anemic attempts to fight Obama back is losing this election. DEMAND THEY EXPOSE OBAMA. NAME NAMES!!

Flood him out with emails with videos, articles, documentation.

Flood the MSM out with emails with videos, articles, documentation. DEMAND they put the truth before the American voters!

Please go to
http://www.protestthemedia.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=7

and pick up all the email addresses to the McCain camp and HUNDREDS of emails of MSM.


217 posted on 10/23/2008 5:54:58 PM PDT by patriot08
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