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Obama Caught on Tape Arguing Against Giving Medical Attention to Aborted Babies
breitbart.tv ^ | October 21, 2008

Posted on 10/21/2008 4:35:45 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Obama: "I suspect that doctors feel that they would be under that obligation, that they would already be making these determinations, and that essentially adding an additional doctor, who then has to be called in an emergency situation to come in and make these assessments, is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion."

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: antichrist; baipa; bornalive; infanticide; nobama; obama
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1 posted on 10/21/2008 4:35:45 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This, my friends (as McCain would say), might be our penultimate October Surprise!!!


2 posted on 10/21/2008 4:38:29 PM PDT by Galtoid ( .)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

ping


3 posted on 10/21/2008 4:39:08 PM PDT by ocr1
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To: Free ThinkerNY

May God forgive obama for advocating the murder of the unborn. I cannot!


4 posted on 10/21/2008 4:40:34 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Geez. And this guy is for the “underprivileged”?

Nauseating...


5 posted on 10/21/2008 4:40:42 PM PDT by Palin4ever
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This audio is so appalling, I’m hoping it’s a fake.


6 posted on 10/21/2008 4:40:48 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (How much money has your 401K lost since the Democrats took Congress?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; taraytarah

the english language has not provided us with enough accurate or adequate words to fully describe what a loathsome and evil piece of human debris this phony really is.


7 posted on 10/21/2008 4:41:21 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Biden promises an international crisis if Obama and he are elected. That’s something to fear; but what I fear far more is a crisis given to us by the God Who creates the babies that Obama wants to kill.


8 posted on 10/21/2008 4:41:53 PM PDT by rangeryder (If a man says something in the woods, is he still wrong?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

No, it would be so that a doctor who tried to kill the child the first time around wouldn’t get a second crack at it.


9 posted on 10/21/2008 4:43:37 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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To: rangeryder

>> but what I fear far more is a crisis given to us by the God Who creates the babies that Obama wants to kill.<<

Yes, I believe that God’s wrath is inevitable if we don’t do something to save these babies.


10 posted on 10/21/2008 4:45:26 PM PDT by Palin4ever
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To: Galtoid

nobody will carry this outside of FOX


11 posted on 10/21/2008 4:47:45 PM PDT by wardaddy (Sarah Palin is the next Magnus....what will we call the darling woman?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The man is pure evil!


12 posted on 10/21/2008 4:50:10 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: Palin4ever

The Leader of the official party of death.


13 posted on 10/21/2008 4:51:27 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: wardaddy

Everyone should send this to Drudge.


14 posted on 10/21/2008 4:51:34 PM PDT by Palin4ever
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He seems to have given a lot of thought to a topic above his pay grade. Any doctor who would perform an abortion has already demonstrated callous disregard for the baby’s life; as someone said, why give him another chance to get it right when the child is born alive.


15 posted on 10/21/2008 4:58:18 PM PDT by informavoracious (Oust all incumbents.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hasn’t this been out there for a while? I’m pretty sure I’ve seen this around for a while.


16 posted on 10/21/2008 4:58:25 PM PDT by Huck (Teddy Roosevelt vs. Che Guevera)
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To: Galtoid

I’d love to send it as damning evidence to my fence sitters, but it is such “eloquent” circular logic BS, that it is meaningless. Would love to have some context.


17 posted on 10/21/2008 5:05:19 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama = Baby Killer


18 posted on 10/21/2008 5:08:45 PM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: Free ThinkerNY; 1035rep; big'ol_freeper; Fudd Fan; tiredoflaundry; WorkerbeeCitizen; Allegra; ...

Needs reading/listening, then pinging ...


19 posted on 10/21/2008 5:11:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Huck

Me too.


20 posted on 10/21/2008 5:13:10 PM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave
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To: MHGinTN

What a murderous jerk/creep/( )/etc...


21 posted on 10/21/2008 5:17:23 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (McCain/Palin Now that's a ticket that deserves a tagline)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

God have mercy on us!

LIFE-YES! obama-NO!


22 posted on 10/21/2008 5:20:42 PM PDT by Godsgirl
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for the ping. Joe the plumber, meet Barry the baby killer.


23 posted on 10/21/2008 5:23:12 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: j_tull
The link found on the Breitbart site to the original site it came from has the Illinois Senate transcript that puts this in context. I haven't read it yet, but its there.

ww
24 posted on 10/21/2008 5:23:57 PM PDT by worrywart (Don't believe the polls, don't believe the media and don't let ANYTHING keep you from voting!!!!!!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
wow. first he says he would not want his daughters to be punished with a baby and now he is saying that doctors and the aborting party should not be burdened with a additional doctor and assessment. amazed this man ever had children. this man is so sick:(

as a aside, did not obama himself say he only voted against born alive because of additional language? dont sound that way to me, in fact in this video he clearly supports infanticide. mccain should make this a ad, stat!

25 posted on 10/21/2008 5:24:28 PM PDT by CanadianMusherinMI (Mrs. Musher here!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Let's put the quote up, then address it:

"I suspect that doctors feel that they would be under that obligation, that they would already be making these determinations, and that essentially adding an additional doctor, who then has to be called in an emergency situation to come in and make these assessments, is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion." Barack Obama, Illinois Legislature

What is essential to understand regarding this quote from Obama is the purposed obfuscation and outright deceit. He is trying to prevent a bill from being passed that would extend medical treatment to alive, struggling babies forced to be born prematurely.

When he posed this argument, Barack Obama knew that this method for killing alive unborn children--called induced labor/induced delivery abortion--was an aboritonist method for killing alive children in abortion intention. But the method uses the purposed removal of Constitutional human rights in order to kill these babies this way!

What Barack Obama was arguing is a lie he knew to be a lie, yet he used it to try and stop medical attention for aalive infants completely separated from the mother's body! Obama's lie was carefully stated, "... doctors feel that they would be under that obligation ...", and he knew the method for killing alive unborn children was this abortion method of forcing very premature birth but he posed the lie that 'abortion doctors' would already feel they were under obligation to extend medical assistance to the very alive children the premature birth is designed to kill via neglect so that the alive, completely separate from the mother's body child struggles and dies, usually suffocating over a period of time which can vary from minutes to HOURS!

This man is a wicked deceitful servant of evil. And this effort to pose a lie he knows is a lie desgined to prevent this murder method from being restrained proves he will lie to empower himself politically. What is so astonishing is, there are democrat voters, even catholic democrat voters who will vote for this evil man anyway, even when shown the proof of his service to evil, the proof of his wickedness! I know, because I argue with just such blinded people almost weekly.

26 posted on 10/21/2008 5:25:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: 1035rep; big'ol_freeper; Fudd Fan; tiredoflaundry; WorkerbeeCitizen; Allegra; TheThinker; ...

Forgive me folks, but the explanation of the lie Barry sought to use to empower himself politically via the purposed murder of alive prematurely born children incites a ‘re-ping’.


27 posted on 10/21/2008 5:31:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: teletech
May God forgive obama for advocating the murder of the unborn

And may God forgive him for supporting the MURDER of those human beings who somehow survive the abortion.

28 posted on 10/21/2008 5:34:15 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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Purposely killing an alive, struggling child, completely separated from their mother’s body, well that’s murder, even if the abortionists intended for the premature child to be dead from abortion and used the fragile state of premature birth to kill them. This thing Obama sought to protect is contrary to the human rights to which Rick Warren referred at Saddleback, human rights guranteed by the Constitution. So the second thing we see in this lesson is that Barack Obama will certainly cancel Constitutional rights if it serves his intentions for empowerment!


29 posted on 10/21/2008 5:34:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

THANKS.

ALL . . . I’m a bit stymied . . .

Trying to condense the best of the Obumma info to a managable size to send to my email list.

There’s SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH EVEN HIGH PRIORITY STUFF.

I’m almost stuck hardly knowing where to begin weeding or prioritizing.

Also, I’m allowing the students in my 2 classes to provide—8-10 pages for their champion in the election of the 2 sides . . . to distribute to their classmates. That is hardly enough to LIST the topic sentences and titles of the incrimminating OBUMMA stuff.

What to do??????


30 posted on 10/21/2008 5:34:54 PM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

The confusion of terminology is a useful tool to the evil the demcorat party uses to empwoer themselves through promoting open abortion. The termination fo a pregnancy is not technically an abortion. Killing an alive unborn child is aborting the pregnancy. The method being used in this evil that Obama tried to protect is forcing premature birth which leads to the death of the alive child as they struggle to try and breathe. It is mrder because the child is completely separated from the mother, and left unattended on purpose, alone, dying trying to breathe with premature lungs that are not even cleared of fluid from the biorthing process. Even wickedness is a bland word for such demonic evil Barack Obama worked to protect from being stopped.


31 posted on 10/21/2008 5:38:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

BHO is one sick man! God help us all if he wins!!


32 posted on 10/21/2008 5:42:29 PM PDT by ChicagoT (God bless McCain & Palin!)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
And may God forgive him for supporting the MURDER of those human beings who somehow survive the abortion.

Someday Obama will stand before God and answer for what he has done. I hope before that day arrives that obama asks for and receives God's forgiveness.

33 posted on 10/21/2008 5:43:36 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

PING!!!


34 posted on 10/21/2008 5:44:22 PM PDT by cruise_missile (''Edward - Jones:High commissions for lousy investment advice! Making cents out of $.)
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To: teletech

It doesn’t matter if you or I forgive him or not, but it sure matters if God does or not.


35 posted on 10/21/2008 5:44:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: MHGinTN; cpforlife.org
...then pinging ...
Ping
36 posted on 10/21/2008 5:45:46 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: Secret Agent Man

Just imagine the horrors that await. Hitler comes to mind with the ruthless attitude of this man. I am afraid, if the infants born alive act is passed, jail time for me is coming. I cannot pay taxes to be an accomplice to murder. This is beyond the pale. I cannot believe this is what we have become as a country when someone who is pure evil can be so close to being able to assist in the murder of so many, with the people cheering so loudly. I weep, Mary weeps, Jesus returns.


37 posted on 10/21/2008 5:51:10 PM PDT by wombtotomb (since its "above his paygrade", why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: Secret Agent Man
It doesn’t matter if you or I forgive him or not, but it sure matters if God does or not.

As a Christian, I think it does matter but in obama's case, I have a real hard time forgiving him.

38 posted on 10/21/2008 5:52:07 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: kingattax

AMEN to THAT, kingattax!


39 posted on 10/21/2008 5:52:13 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Nobody spreads my wealth but ME.)
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To: Fudd Fan

how are you, FF ?


40 posted on 10/21/2008 6:01:04 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obummer doesn’t think human babies are human, or he hasn’t thought what that implies.


41 posted on 10/21/2008 6:22:33 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Aren’t there laws against medical neglect? To me this is clearly homicide. If a woman has a child in secret and throws the child in the dumpster she is charged with murder should it be found the child took a breath. I think the same law should apply to mothers that have babies inside the hospital and they refuse to order treatment and the doctors that don’t try to save these born alive babies should not only be charged with neglect they should lose their license.


42 posted on 10/21/2008 6:31:30 PM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

” “I suspect that doctors feel ..”

He’s more concerned with how he imagines a doctor might feel ( emotionally ) that what a baby might feel physically.
The pictures of these babies uncovered, cold, dying alone on a shelf are unspeakable.
Obama’s description -” the fetus or child, as—as some might describe it,
is still temporarily alive outside the womb ”
reeks of a Hitlerian philosophy.
Obama is a monster who has obviously never visited a NICU.
There he would see many preemies, some with Down’s Syndrome, weighing less than those dying by themselves on the shelf.
On second thought ,better keep him out-he might go beserk at the sight of tiny babies being kept alive outside the womb.


43 posted on 10/21/2008 6:35:37 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
When I explained ‘induced labor abortion’ to my ex-wife just the other day—she lost a little boy earlier in her life, before I met her, due to placental detachment and very premature birth—she stated flatly that it was murder. BUT, because she wants to vote for and defend Obama, she will not accept that he was intentionally trying to protect the evil killing methodology as his way to empower his political capital by defending ‘a woman's right to choose abortion’. She even quoted back to me one of the lies from the layer of lies the Axelrod squad have improvised to misdirect and confuse the truth, to protect Obama from exposure as the most radical pro-abortion, pro-infanticide Democrat ever to run for president. It's insane!
44 posted on 10/21/2008 7:00:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Harry Wurzbach; informavoracious; Wild Irish Rogue
In the quotes below, all 3 of you made the same exact verbal euphemism Obama did on the tape cited: Y'all call the killer "abortionist" a "doctor" as if this bottom feeder was into "health" or something:

...it would be so that a doctor who tried to kill the child the first time around wouldn’t get a second crack at it. [Harry Wurzbach]

Any doctor who would perform an abortion has already demonstrated callous disregard for the baby’s life; as someone said, why give him another chance to get it right when the child is born alive. [informavoracious]

He’s more concerned with how he imagines a doctor might feel ( emotionally ) that what a baby might feel physically. [Wild Irish Rogue]

Listen, once upon an American time, more "doctors" -- like practicing OB/GYNs -- did abortions here and there. But upon pondering what they were actually doing -- dismembering their second patient in every case, more & more decided to hold on to the health side of their practice, thereby leaving the local dismembering & killing to the neighborhood gangs around them.

Plus, the abortion industry began to model themselves after drive-thru McDonald's, figuring they could make even more of a literal killing if they could centralize the human hamburger masher onsite full time. So Planned Parenthood became the pioneering McDonald's of the industry.

Soon, 90% of all American abortions were done by either on-site host serial killers or in more rural areas, by circuit riders who would hit up 2 or 3 killing posts.

Anyway, at least 9 in 10 of all the aborted are dismembered by slashers who do it full time. There's nothing remotely "doctorish" about them [Hey, if someone wanted to do the sequel of sequels, they could do Halloween: The Abortion Clinic, and take live footage and it would both out-gross all the other Halloween movies both in $ & gore!}

And while the Illinois abortions described by Jill Stanek were done by those with doctors' privileges at that hospital (which in some ways makes it even worse...what? you wanna treated by someone who thinks some of his patients in the next room are slashable?), the proposed Illinois law would apply to bottom feeder & Dr. Schizoid alike.

45 posted on 10/21/2008 7:00:16 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: teletech
Someday Obama will stand before God and answer for what he has done.

Someday the people who supported Hitler will stand before God and answer for what they have done.

Someday the people who supported pro-abortion candidates will stand before God and answer for what they have done.

And someday the rest of us who somehow thought Proverbs 24:11-12 didn't apply to certain at-risk young ones will stand before God and answer for what we FAILED to do!

Proverbs 24:11-12: Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those staggering toward slaughter. If you say, "But we knew nothing about this," does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who guards your life know it? Will he not repay each person according to what he has done?

46 posted on 10/21/2008 7:06:13 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Huck; 4Godsoloved..Hegave
Hasn’t this been out there for a while?

Yes. It was posted here 6-8 weeks ago.

47 posted on 10/21/2008 7:13:58 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If Barack Obama needs more experience, I could give it too him. - "Golden Girl" Betty White)
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To: CanadianMusherinMI
...first he says he would not want his daughters to be punished with a baby...

Just think of it: His unwed daughter hypothetically gets pregnant and the baby becomes a so-called "punisher."

Now, take the...
...Same daughter...
...Same baby....
...Only this time, add a mere wedding band around the girl's finger. And it's likely the baby is transformed into THE "apple's eye" of granddad Obama.

That, my friend, is scarier than any Halloween from hell could ever be introduced: Where the reality of the person is 100% in the subjective eye of the beholder (and the every beholder is a potential grim reaper!)

"You? (Oh, you're OK). Your disabled twin who lives next door? Nope. We, the Democratic Party of Death, need to "eugenicize" him before he dare burden anybody or before his genes get passed on." {This concept message approved by Democrats almost everywhere}

48 posted on 10/21/2008 7:16:16 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
obama is sick and evil! genocide of his own race and his own blood, when it is convenient
49 posted on 10/21/2008 7:22:23 PM PDT by CanadianMusherinMI (Mrs. Musher here!)
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To: kingattax

Hangin’ in there~!


50 posted on 10/21/2008 7:22:39 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Nobody spreads my wealth but ME.)
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