Posted on 10/21/2008 9:07:33 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins
Looks like an interesting book.
Make it a double!
There are exceptions. Like potatoes, rice, beans,corn, some of which I mentioned. Do I have to list everything?
Most of your vegies, things you put on the non-carb section of your plate are what dietary guides call “free foods”. You can eat all you want without effecting blood sugar levels.
celery, tomatoes, lettuce, spinach, rhubarb, eggplant cabbage, peppers, radish- get the idea?
I’ll stay at the front, thank you. I do expect students to use their brains however.
Human bodies cannot produce glucose? Want to look at that again?
Yup, I'm so not the picture of health. 1 2 3
"And eating all those beans and processed 'tofu' doesn't make you pleasant to be around either..."
That's why god created beano.
It's a hyperglycemic condition called hepatic glucose production, hepatic gluconeogenesis. That's why a fat person who really isn't stuffing his face behind your back just can't loose wieght. It really isn't fair that some people think all these fat people have to do to loose wieght is quit stuffing their faces and excercise. What they really need to do is eat more, proper food controlling the amount of carbs they eat. You MUST have carbs in every meal, or you trigger that liver production of glucose. The "average" person with type 2 diabetes has three times the normal rate of gluconeogenesis
Out of respect for myself, I will not look at pics of a conceited guy obsessed with his body. even sending a link to them to another guy is just a little too wierd for me.
Who are you, that looser from ‘big brother’? He never had a girlfriend either for obvious reasons.
I see you eat crowmeat too. It’s ok.
And don’t you know that just because you tone your muscles, it doesn’t mean you are in good cardiovascular shape.
looks and functional ability are not the same thing.
No, I’m just not gay.
Ok I looked. You aren’t even in any kind of shape. In fact you look like an aids patent.
When I was your age, I was in much better shape, and I ate nice thick juicy steaks all the time. And if it wasn’t for a car accident that left me in a wheelchair for 6 years, I’d still be in better shape than that, even though I’m about 30 years older.
Google primate carnivores; one sample:
Feeding Habits
The primate order includes a handful of species that live entirely on meat (carnivores) and also a few that are strict vegetarians (herbivores), but it is composed chiefly of animals that have varied diets (omnivores). The carnivorous primates are the four species of tarsiers, which live in Southeast Asia. Using their long back legs, these pocket-sized nocturnal hunters leap on their prey, pinning it down with their hands and then killing it with their needle-sharp teeth. Tarsiers primarily eat insects but will also eat lizards, bats, and snakes.
Other prosimians, such as galagos and mouse lemurs, also hunt for insects, but they supplement their diet with different kinds of food, including lizards, bird eggs, fruit, and plant sap. This opportunistic approach to feeding is seen in the majority of monkeys and also in chimpanzees. Several species of monkeys, and chimpanzees, but not the other apes, have been known to attack and eat other monkeys. Baboons, the most adept hunters on the ground, often eat meat and sometimes manage to kill small antelope.
Most apes and monkeys eat a range of plant-based foods, but a few specialize in eating leaves. South American howler monkeys and African colobus monkeys eat the leaves of many different trees, but the proboscis monkey on the island of Borneo is more selective, surviving largely on the leaves of mangroves. These leaf-eating monkeys have modified digestive systems, similar to cows, which enable them to break down food that few other monkeys can digest. Other apes and monkeys eat mostly fruit, while some marmosets and lemurs depend on tree gum and sap.
You eat that with the incredible shape your body is in??? My theories are proven true. Whole natural food does a body good. Now if only I could give up Micky D’s LOL!
Primates are omnivores, they are also lousy hunters and/but opportunistic and very adaptable.
Primate teeth are not optimized for one diet or the other (but try to avoid being bitten by a baboon).
We are still geared to eating meat and we can easily assimilate needed minerals and vitamins from other stuff; it's nice to be able to shift gears when necessary.
It's also useful that some primates learned to farm, ranch, preserve food, and build shelter.
By and large, those primates thrived because they could kill things, cook 'em, and eat 'em with dairy and veggies on the side. No longer requiring that specific parts of their anatomy evolve for specific and critical conditions.
From what I read in the article, they cited everything that makes the Atkins diet work and recognize that humans are imperfect for any one thing but - eventually - capable of all things.
You are all wrong! The exception does not prove the rule! On the whole, almost all primates are mostly herbivorous! And anatomically and physiologically humans are much more similar to primates than cats! To argue otherwise is ignoring basic zoology.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against meat consumption. But to argue we are primarily carnivorous is suspect.
From the University of Notre Dame:
http://ocw.nd.edu/anthropology/primate-behavior/session-5-behavioral-ecology-2
Session 4: Behavioral Ecology: Feeding
Other animal matter:
Very few primates consume mammals or other vertebrates, but some consume them opportunistically. Macaques are willing to eat anything. Animal matter is largely unreliable as a food source. It is has a variable distribution, has variable capture costs, and variable nutrient return.
Leafy material: Leafy material is the most common dietary element of primates.
• Very abundant and evenly distributed.
• Low competition.
• Extremely variable quality of nutritional value; young leaves are the most nutritive.
• Mechanical digestion is low quality; over time, degradation occurs but this is not a good method for acquisition of nutrients.
• A measure of nutrient accessibility is ADF, or the acid digestion fiber, with high ADF values representing high nutrient food with easy access.
• Seasonality is a cost of leaf consumption, specifically regarding the leaf flush.
• Secondary compounds (tannins, alkaloids, etc.) contained in leaves can be toxic to primates.
Fruits: Primates love fruits because fruits are laden with sugar.
• Patchily spaced so can be variable in space and time.
• High nutritive return due to the simplicity in digesting.
• Easy processing, if ripe, with little need for even chewing.
• High competition. Nothing has more competition than fruits.
• Seasonal availability.
Insects:
• Consumption is second only to fruits for primates.
• Has extremely variable distribution because they can be tricky to catch and eat.
• High nutritive return but due to capture costs, very few primates.
• Capture costs can be extremely high.
• Variable processing costs.
Seeds & nuts:
• Have a variable distribution.
• Have a very high nutritive return with very high processing costs due to the challenge in access and their high amount of secondary compounds.
• Only some primates consume nuts and seeds, but those that do typically have unusual adaptations for accessing.
Exudates (Tree Saps):
Tree saps have a fairly evenly distribution and have a high nutritive return. However, the high extraction costs limit access to the non-human primates with specific dental modifications. Thus, there are really a few competitors for exudates.
All consumption is opportunistic...animals get consumed less because they are quicker than plants and vegetables. Leaves are more opportunistic than specific fruits and vegetables.
If you really spent 25 seconds thinking about it you would come up with this:
In descending order of appearance:
(by percentage of time they are within the grasp of a primate)
Leaves
Plants
Vegetables
Fruits
Substantial Bugs
Small Rodents
Small Birds
Animals
This matches nicely with what primates eat by percentage. Primates, much like us, eat what they can get their hands on.
If you don’t believe me, then please explain why birds will sit on an elephant or wildebeast and pick off bugs but they won’t do the same with a monkey?
(ANSWER: Because the monkey will eat it and the bird knows this unlike yourself)
Where do you come up with this stuff?
“...cutting all carbs and proteins from their diet can still get fat.”
Ahh, that would leave only fats.
” ...their liver begins producing glucose”
The liver produces and STORES glucose as glycogen. Normal.
“When it does this, it always produces too much,”
How much glucose the liver produces is mostly controlled by the hypothalamus which directs the pancreas to produce either glucagon or insulin.
“You MUST have carbs in every meal, or you trigger that liver production of glucose.”
The silliness of this statement should be self evident.But right you are when you say that unused glucose can end up as fat.
“It’s a hyperglycemic condition called hepatic glucose production, hepatic gluconeogenesis.”
Glucose production by the liver is not a hyperglycemic condition nor is having body fat. Hyperglycemia refers to high blood sugar just as hypoglycemia refers to low blood sugar.
p.s. toss out the diet guru books.
Type 2 diabetes is the body being resistant to the effects of insulin which causes blood levels of sugar to rise.
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