Posted on 10/23/2008 7:18:55 AM PDT by Born Conservative
The Federal Election Commission has joined Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee in asking a federal judge to dismiss a lawsuit filed by a Montgomery County attorney seeking Obama's ouster from the November ballot.
Philip Berg, who claims the Illinois senator was born in Kenya and can't run for president because he isn't a natural-born U.S. citizen, has no standing to make the claim, according to the FEC.
The motion, filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia, echoes one filed last month by Obama and the DNC that states Berg hasn't demonstrated how he personally would suffer even if his ''ridiculous and patently false'' claims were true.
(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...
To make the discussion short, according to Philip J. Berg, Esq: OBAMA admission of 56 charges. DNC admission of 27 admission!!!
As several lawyers on these threads have pointed out, Berg proclaiming that all of these have been admitted, and them actually being admitted by either Obama or the court are two very separate things. Pretty much like a blog claiming that travel to Pakistan was banned by the State Dept, and that actually being the case.
It seems the Gennie is out of the bottle!
Rush Limbaugh brought it up today for the first time in a major talk show host!!
Hey, these here are NOT my words!!!
Lawsuits Starting Across the Nation Proceeding to Avert Potential Constitutional Crisis, Possible Civil Unrest, and Confidence in Elections; Lawsuits are being filed in Eight States Seeking to Require Barack Obama to Provide Certification of Birth in U.S. Or Be Removed as Presidential Candidate on State Ballots.
Seattle WA. 10/22/2008 — Lawsuits in eight states as of this writing– Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia. Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut, are seeking judicial authority to force the certifying or decertifying of Senator Barack Obama’s qualification to run as a candidate for President as a natural born U.S. Citizen. Previously, two lawsuits have failed to force the certifying documents from Obama.
Philip Berg’s months-long lawsuit in Federal Court in Philadelphia reached a dramatic plateau yesterday as Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) failed to respond to the court that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. Citizen and therefore not qualified to run for office of President of the U.S. They admitted to Obama’s non-qualification by their failure to respond to a 30-day court ordered discovery in which Obama and the DNC were ordered to answer a petition by Berg. Berg is a lifelong Democrat in the Pennsylvania Democratic Party who has sought to ratchet up the legal pressure as Obama and the DNC has continually delayed providing certifying documentation of Obama’s birth, which he claims to have been in Hawaii.
A lawsuit in Honolulu in the First District Court is seeking a court-order to open Obama’s secret birth records. Obama has thus far neglected a Freedom of Information request for the records at two hospitals in Hawaii. Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state Superior Courts to force the states’ Secretary of State, as the chief state elections officer, to perform their state constitutional duties to require original certifying birth records from Mr. Obama that would verify his birth in Hawaii.
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: ““No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”
There are numerous allegations to Obama’s claim of natural birth in the U.S. On the web and in the media, all raising suspicion and doubt as to Obama’s actual place of birth and qualification to run for president. Some of the assertions to which Obama “admitted” on Berg’s suit are: he was born in Mombassa, Kenya in 1961 while his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was married to Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan; when his mother, divorced from Obama Sr, moved to Indonesia and married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian, Obama was adopted by Soetoro and became an Indonesian citizen; while in Indonesia, Obama had his name changed to Barry Soetoro; Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981 under an Indonesian passport when Pakistan was a no travel zone for Americans; Obama had “admitted” to receiving illegal contributions in his campaign for president. Additionally, there is an allegation that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother claims that Obama was born in Kenya; Muammar Gadhafi, leader of Libya, has publicly claimed that Obama was born in Kenya and studied in Muslim schools in Indonesia. Obama has also “admitted” to hold citizenship in another country (the U.S. Constitution forbids dual citizenship).
Non-partisan and independent reviews and examinations of Obama’s birth certificate as shown on his official website has evidence of tampering and in any case does not list any of the points of information commonly found which would make it traceable and verifiable such as hospital, doctor, size weight, foot prints etc.
Interestingly, all these state lawsuits would be dropped if Mr. Obama would simply provide the requested documents supporting his claim of being born in Hawaii.
Lawsuits in additional states are being added each day. For more information about each lawsuit, contact:
I'm not believing that without some better evidence, either.
Yes, but I believe Berg already has won the “Standing” issue. I was referring to Obama and his cohorts and their red herring defense tactics.
As Dean Wormer famously said: “Out with it, boy”
Sorry, I'm confused and hope you can help clarify.... how on earth could Berg not have standing?
I know this is what the DNC & FEC motion intends to have ruled on, but it doesn't make sense to me that any citizen of PA and member of the Democratic party could fail to have standing in questions related to the eligibility of the Democratic candidate.
Seems to me it's been vetted and found to have no legs.
Anyway, I'm not going to waste any more time arguing about it. If someone wants to waste their time on this nonsense instead of attacking Obama on the issues, that's their call.
Oh, right. Because she was 18 when she had him, it matters. The fact that she was a U.S. citizen (natural born I might add) doesn't matter.
Good grief.
If you want to waste your time on this idiocy, go for it. I'll spend my time pushing the issues, as THAT is what will keep Obama from getting elected.
If some choose to waste their time on this nonsense, that is up to them. I'll spend my time pushing the issues as THAT is what will prevent Obama from getting elected.
You made the claim. Apparently, you can't back it up.
Have fun wasting your time trying to get a judge to say Obama can't run for Prez.
Sure, if you call 'debate' name calling and insulting people. That's not what I call it.
Go ahead and waste your time trying to get a judge to say Obama can't run for President. I'll be spending my time attacking him on the issues as THAT is the only thing that can stop him from becoming President.
You have a very short fuse, as you started insulting and name calling in your very first post to me. You might want to try some anger management classes.
All along I thought the argument hinged on what the constitution says. That hasn't changed.
So you're saying this isn't a constitutional issue?
Where does it say that in the constitution? (Oh, I forgot - you said in another post that this isn't a constitutional issue.)
That is true.
Does that means that YOU think the rest us are NOT voting???
I didn't say whether I think you will vote or not. That's irrelevent to what I said. Re-read what I posted.
Vetted? Got link?
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