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To: Red Steel
Let's say that Obama was born in Kenya, but that his (Kansas born?) mother took him to the U.S. Embassy with her passport, applied for and received a Consular Report of the Birth of a U.S. Citizen Abroad. The Embassy would have issued the baby a U.S. passport at the same time!

If this is the case, then the U.S. State Department must have a record of a Consular Report and Passport having been issued.

Has anyone sought these records at the U.S. State Department?


We have three children born in foreign countries (China, Russia, Philippines). The procedure was the same, EXACTLY, in each case. We were required to take our U.S. passports to the Embassy or Consulate WITH THE CHILD (!!!) along with some document from the hospital where the child was born, or with a local registration of birth.

Our son born in China was born in a Womens & Maternity Hospital that issues NO birth record, but we had the receipt of payment for services. We used a simple typewriter and produced a BILINGUAL birth certificate modeled after my California birth certificate. The attending physician signed it, and went with us to a government attorney, who produced a sealed registration, and at the same time registered our American son's Chinese name in their public records.

We took those documents and photos with the baby to the U.S. Embassy in Beijing. The Embassy staff said that they were required to see the baby to be sure that there was no attempt to smuggle a Chinese baby out of China. We have no idea what would happen in the case of a Chinese-American couple going through the same procedure, since their baby would obviously appear to be Chinese, but . . . we know what we were told at the time.

The U.S. Embassy issued BOTH a Consular Report of Birth (A U.S. State Separtment document) AND a U.S. Passport.

One daughter was born in a hospital in Vladivostok. We took that hospital's report to the public registrar in Ussurriysk City and obtained a Russian birth certificate. We took all of those documents and photos, and our passports to the U.S. Consulate General in Vladivostok, where we were issued BOTH a Consular Report of Birth AND a U.S. Passport for the baby.

Our last daughter was born at home in Batangas Province, Philippines. Our physician friend attended. We obtained birth registry applications from the local registrar, and these were completed by the physician. AGAIN we took all of those documents, photos, our passports and baby to the U.S. Embassy (Manila), and were issued BOTH a Consular Report of Birth AND a U.S. Passport for the baby.

Now, do you see the pattern?

If Obama was born in Kenya, was he removed from Kenya without a Consular Report of Birth and without a U.S. Passport? If so, WHY?

On the other hand, was Obama issued a Consular Report of Birth and a U.S. Passport? If so, then the U.S. State Department has a record, and could settle the issue on short order.

If Obama was born in Kenya, then how did his parents remove the baby from the country without a passport? How did they get the baby in to the United States without a passport of some kind?

Was Obama issued a Kenyan passport, and did his parents bring him in to the USA on a Kenyan passport?

87 posted on 10/24/2008 12:48:14 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

At the time, babies could travel on their mother’s passport, they didn’t have to have their own.


106 posted on 10/24/2008 3:40:42 AM PDT by Nipfan
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To: John Leland 1789
Has anyone sought these records at the U.S. State Department?

Right to privacy laws and concerns about identity theft prevent the State Department from releasing this info to non-family members.

130 posted on 10/24/2008 10:21:25 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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