Posted on 10/24/2008 8:28:53 PM PDT by OPS4
I don’t know how I missed this story, but apparently the USCCB has decided to cut off ACORN’s funding due to “financial irregularities.” ACORN was set to receive another $1.13 million of our second collection for the 2008 cycle.
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Acorn fraud will be stamped out!
Smart move
Woohoo! SUPER news for Catholics (and for America.)
What you said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!good news.........
BOOM :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Good bye to Bishops appeals, as far as I’m concerned. I gave to the Bishops’ appeal only for the spread of the Faith. I will choose more carefully where I donate from now on.
Good news. I think the staffers who run the USCCB are beginning to hear all those bishops speaking out.
They were donating to ACORN, probably, because they were told it was helping poor black people. But this election has revealed that that “help” is very questionable indeed.
These Alinsky trained people are very good at hiding what they are actually doing. But the word is getting out now, and if Obama is defeated I think that ACORN is liable to lose a lot of donations and a lot of tax money.
ACORN People’s Platform
ACORN Platform - Net Cache ^ | October 24, 2008 | ACORN
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2113938/posts
“...This is not a simple vision, but a detailed plan.
Our plan is to build an American reality from the American rhetoric, to deliver a piece of the present and the fruits of the future to every man, to every woman, to every family.
We demand our birthright: the chance to be rich, the right to be free...”
I NEVER give to the second collection ...never!
Any other skeletons left in the CCHD closet?
I wonder if it is time for American Catholics to petition the Vatican to task the Holy Office and the Dominican Order of Dominicans with coming to the United States, on an extended mission to challenge the heterodoxies that have evolved in the Americas.
That is, an instructional mission to distinguish church doctrines from the morass of everything from secular corruptions to outright heresies.
Working from North to South, first to confront the “social Catholics”, who no longer embrace the faith, but use the pretense for ulterior motives. Then those Catholic institutions that endorse anti-Catholic instruction and groups.
Into Mexico and the Caribbean, there are the Santa Muerte cultists casting about confusion and doubt, and those nations where Catholicism has been blended into the local pagan religions. In Cuba and Venezuela, the Russian Orthodox church is being invited in, to challenge the Catholic church.
Further South the people are tormented by socialism, once again, and their faith disparaged. No doubt there will be a resurgence of Liberation Theology, leftists encouraging revolution that will be blamed on the church, if they are unchallenged.
I’m glad I didn’t know the USCCB was giving money to those foul scumbags.
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The Bishops are finding their brains — actually maybe I better say their brains were (handed to them) awakened when Pope Benedict visited the United States.
That is good news
WONDERFUL news!
The central offices of many dioceses are full of liberals. What has amazed me is the way that the Holy Father has managed to gin the bishops up. Men who were silent before are speaking up. Benedict truly has charisma. Not the political sort, but the real thing.
It’s too little, too late, but better late than never! : )
Excellent news. We all need to continue our fight to up end this group even though it is too late for the election and also too late for our economy (I am sure like any evil they will transform into some other name with the same agenda. But for now thank you Jesus :-) and let’s keep up the pressure!
There are much more worthy causes than ACORN for USCCB to be funding.
Money should go to institutions that are faithful to church teaching.
Video I’ve seen of ACORN leaders and members in red shirts and red caps reminds me of the left-wing goon squads who support Hugo Chavez in Venezuela.
The ACORN leader shown in the video was clearly endorsing a candidate for president (Obama) who is not faithful to the most fundamental church teaching on the sanctity of human life.
May the liberals and their agenda be pushed to the side in the church bureaucracy.
May the money go to the cause of Jesus Christ and those who are faithful to church teaching.
Very wise! Better to give to a specific Catholic organization of your choice. Whether it’s prolife, like American Life League, or one of the missions, or a particular religious order (be careful of the nuns, many are now new age goddess worshippers but still are photographed in habits before a crucifix for their fund-raising literature), or C-Fam, whatever. The best charities doing really good work are not getting any money from the Church. The Bishop campaigns all go to global warming workshops and lawyers for illegals and sex-ed for second graders and great stuff like that.
For example, The Archdiocese of Military Services, the priests and chaplains serving our troops around the world, is desperately in need of money (and priests). I’d send them $100 over my bishop any day — support Catholic evangelism, the Church and your Country all at once!
**For example, The Archdiocese of Military Services, the priests and chaplains serving our troops around the world, is desperately in need of money (and priests). **
Excellent suggestion. Probably that many people don’t even know about it.
Good Job!
Many “conservative” Catholics did know and have been protesting this for over 10 years. The reason for the sudden action by the bishops is the ACORN issue is now dangerous, it’s out in the open and recognized by everyone as bad. There still are a few hundred other organizations they need to stop funding.
I give no money to the Archdiocese, I would consider it immoral to do so, and have had very difficult and in depth conversations with my priest about fulfilling my duty to support the Church, and how I can do that without giving one dime to any Archdiocesan program.
What I do is instead of putting money in collection plate, a percentage of which goes to the bishop, I make “anonymous grants” directly to my parish for specific needs they have (painting the building, books for the children, new altar cloths, etc) and then give the rest of my charity budget to REAL and PURELY CATHOLIC organizations like Human Life International.
We need to stop the gravy train to the bishops, and maybe they will realize their Democratic base is shifting to the right a bit, and if they want the bucks to keep flowing, they had better shift right as well.
Here they are, check it out! God bless our troops.
www.milarch.org
Excellent news!
I've been dumbfounded by this, too. First of all, I was stunned to learn that they receive federal money (that would be my very own tax dollars!). And the number of powerful foundations and non-profits channeling money their way would probably blow you away if you ever saw a list.
Why the Dominican Order and not other orders? Thanks for the response.
Glad the bishops are getting their acts together.
That remains to be seen. We could discourage voter fraud by treating ACORN perpitrators as the low life scum they are simply by treating each fraudulent registtation as a separate felony and put some of these clowns in prison for a thousand years.
The suspension covers all 40 ACORN affiliates nationwide that had been approved for $1.13 million in grants for the funding cycle that started July 1, 2008.
I don't have any of my lists available on this computer, but I have seen long lists of beneficiaries of Catholic bishops' largesse. So many of them have ties to left wing causes that I simply stopped giving money to our annual Archbishops appeal. I stopped it in the mid-nineties, I think it was. I won't start again until I'm satisfied I'm not abetting treason or, for that matter, any group that advocates political views with which I disagree.
I feel the same way about United Way.
Thank you, Jesus!
Last week, the priest told me that he didn't have the right to tell anyone how to vote. From the pulpit.
dsc,unfortuately oveer time they have given 7 million to them.
McCloud released information showing that CCHD funded more than 320 ACORN projects with grants totaling more than $7.3 million during the last 10 years. He said the community organization also had received funds since early in CCHD’s history.
CCHD’s Web site reveals the campaign gave about $1.11 million to 40 ACORN affiliates in 2007 and $1.17 million to 45 affiliates in 2006.
1. Never new they were giving $ which come from donations in the pews to this communist organization.
2. The USCCB better keep ACORN away from Catholic money from this point forward. I, as with millions of other Catholics will be demanding more accountability as to where our dollars are going from now on.
ACORN’s extreme leftist ideologies are nothing new. Only after these notorious examples of financial and voter fraud are plastered in the MSM does the USCCB react. Someone inside of the USCCB has obviously had a political agenda up until now. Father Phlager (sp) must not be alone in the Catholic Church.
Good news that the USCCB stopped giving Catholic money to ACORN, but it simply cannot be that they suddenly discovered the true nature of ACORN. Someone/people within the USCCB has been approving this money for some time.
I’d like to know which of the clergy who is responsible for overseeing the disbursement of funds allowed for this to happen in the first place.
What other leftist groups are being allowed to siphen $ from the pockets of Catholics?
I think this should be the reason for digging deeper into the USCCB donations.
Woo-hoo!!!
I would also like to see the investigation of the Campaign for
human development from the very beginning. Who started it,
who were the influential bishops, why did it not stop funding, it was challenged through the years and nothing
was done. I was told by a local campaign representative that
the campaign was not allowed to give to Catholic organizations or causes. Years ago in the 1960s the
diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph provided funds to Saul
Alinski to send one of his lieutenants to agitate. I am not
sure but I think his last name was Lincoln. The head of Catholic Charities was the one who spearheaded this. He was
a priest and later became a bishop. The bishop is now dead.
I am convinced there is a connect here, though I cannot prove it.
I sense the ghost of Cardinal Bernadin. It's finally being exorcized.
You want to really be stunned? Sit down one night with an adult beverage and google federal grants. There's $$ available for EVERYTHING. And all sorts of groups scheme to get their hands on it - and not just the poor. I was reading a paper at work last week that called for tax cuts for small business and R & D and federal dollars to build research parks at the same time as well as the use of federal land to build them. And none of the businesses to be started were to have strictly military applications.
I know this is a thread about the USCCB, but that's my latest soapbox.
Somewhere up a bit at least one person said that they don't give to archdiocesan appeals - there are other causes yes, and when a parish school or archdiocesan high school needs funds people might consider giving directly. Still, there is a lot of good done at the archdiocesan level, at least here.
I find it very troubling and amazing that most of the "old money" which is channeled into these marxist, anti-American causes is primarily granted from what was originally somewhat conservative groups that have been undermined by those they were intended to help. A case in point that directly helped in the creation of Acorn is The Woods Foundation ^.
Discover the Networks has a java-based "Visual Map" that gives a good representation of all the groups and individuals it serves, and hitting the "Acorn" link off the Woods listing brings up Acorn's overall tentacle list. I think it fairly safe to say that most of the foundational funders of Acorn were all started by those considered to be America's premiere families, and conservative at initiation.
Why were they funding them in the first place?
It’s good news but also news which doesn’t address the real problem at the USCCB. THe USCCB has not only been funding ACORN for years but a host of other Alinsky radical groups including Gamiliel and LaRaza. It will continue to do so for note—the only reason the ACORN funding ceased was because of a fraud issue, not whether it was right or proper for the leftist at the USCCB to be funding any of this nonsense.
The USCCB “social[ism] domestic policy” agenda is run by radical left wing socialist apparatchiks. If you think that such a statement is too harsh, then go to the website and look at the organization’s lobbying agenda along with the funding done by its subsidiary organization the Orwellian Campaign for Human Development. The lobbying efforts are all and exclusively statist solutions and policy preferences. Putting aside the fact that the Church should not be engaged in the whole array of DC policy preferences for bigger and more centralized government, there is no voice at the USCCB for the likes of “other voices” such as Acton.
The bishops have unfortunately “contracted out” many of their pastoral duties to encourage and teach charity-—the charity of our participation, of our minds and our hearts, and the charity of giving our money. In other words the salvific charity of the gospel In lieu of that they have allowed the USCCB to contract charity to the political arena-—and the left wing at that. Sorry, but politics is not about charity; it’s about power. The USCCB has taken the sentiments of charity and deceived many Catholics into believing that giving money to such groups constitutes real charity.
Wasn’t it Lenin who said in effect that capitalists would sell the rope he would use to hang them. Well, the USCCB has farmed out the “charity” which will be used to silence authentic charity and authentic Church teaching on the family, on life, and on salvation once the Alinsky marxists take over.
Are you Roman-Catholic?
That has always been a bizarre paradox. The old, established foundations - Ford and Rockefeller, founded by capitalists red in tooth and claw - have been pushing socialism for decades now, and the new ones (Packard, for example), also founded by people who made their bucks the American way, on their own and from consumers, are solidly behind reducing both producers and buyers. The Packard foundation is a big supporter of zero-population-growth organizations such as Planned Parenthood and the deceptively named Catholics for a Free Choice.
And the Packard who founded it is still alive and could probably change this if he wanted to. It mystifies me. Of course, Henry Ford was a eugenicist, so maybe there was something rotten there all along. But I really don’t understand, from a simple economic view, how these foundations can support things aimed at killing the very system that created them.
Well put.
Ping-wow.
Umm, the big money has these foundations set up to be sure that the "little people" stay dependent on them and remain little. Don't forget that the inspiration for Pope Pius XI's encyclical against "Americanism" (really, modernism) was a visit from John D. Rockefeller, Jr., who asked him to soften the church's stance on birth control.
It's all about power. The communists said from the beginning that the two institutions that needed to be destroyed in order for it to work are the USA and the Catholic Church. They've seriously tried.
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