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Jeff Schreiber on Berg Suit Dismissal
America's Right ^ | Saturday, October 25, 2008 | Jeff Schreiber

Posted on 10/25/2008 7:58:24 AM PDT by Technical Editor

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To: Technical Editor
'To reiterate: a candidate’s ineligibility under the Natural Born Citizen Clause does not result in an injury in fact to voters.'

Standing=The Constitution requires it ...

and voters have the need and right to know BEFORE giving their vote!!

Another wotthless judge without the gonads to meet out justice when required and gets in the way of the law instead of upholding it,

OUT WITH HIM NOW!

101 posted on 10/25/2008 10:00:43 AM PDT by wubjo (nO Terrorists; nO Tyranny; nObama)
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To: SE Mom

The suits have been filed in state and federal courts in Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia, New York, and Connecticut to compel Obama to release his birth records. Ohio was being added yesterday.

The precident has been set that the citizens have no standing.


102 posted on 10/25/2008 10:01:31 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: The Californian

It doesn’t technically matter WHO Berg is- and it doesn’t change the merits of his case. I’m just biased against anyone who believe the 9-11 truth crap.

But if you read the rest of my post- I am completely convinced Obama is lying about his birth and I agree with you- it’s a very simple matter for him- give the paper copy of his birth certificate to the press and satisfy those of us on the right-wing lunatic fringe ;)


103 posted on 10/25/2008 10:06:19 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Scarchin

When you were hired in the school system, did you have to show any form of IDs???


104 posted on 10/25/2008 10:08:26 AM PDT by danamco
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To: Technical Editor
Regardless of the legal outcome, the fact remains that Obama (through his Campaign) had a forged image created as a substitute for the real thing.

Then, since its release to the public four months ago, the image is still claimed to be Obama's "original birth certificate," which it absolutely is not because the original birth certificate looks nothing like the COLB.

There is one, and only, one reason why Obama has not shown either his "vault" birth certificate, a copy of his original birth certificate, or a current COLB:

Barack Obama does not have a US birth certificate to show, because no US birth record exists for Barack Obama in Hawaii, or any other US state or US territory.

The absence of a birth record means that Obama cannot prove that he was born in the U.S.A. -- the most important qualification for POTUS.

The battle over the birth certificate is still the #1 issue that will bring down Obama.

105 posted on 10/25/2008 10:09:17 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: SE Mom

Sorry, didn’t mean to scorch you. I am just frustrated. It is not the fact that Obama is or isn’t telling lies, hiding facts of his birth, or anything else. It is the fact that he has come this far with no one vetting him.

I grieve for our country.


106 posted on 10/25/2008 10:09:28 AM PDT by The Californian
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To: Scarchin

Why should I read some stinking blog!

It’s just some AHs personal rant.


107 posted on 10/25/2008 10:11:40 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: The Californian

My letter to George W. Bush:

Dear President Bush:

You are the Commander-in-Chief and chief law-enforcement officer of the United States, and I would urge you to immediately act according to your pledge to protect the Constitution: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

What I think is that you need to defend the United States from those who are trashing the Constitution.

I think you need to step forward and say that it is your responsibility to enforce the laws of the United States, that the Constitution is our most basic law, and further, that you will perform the constitutional test of Barack Obama’s candidacy for president yourself.

Mr. President, you have the power to do this. You are the chief enforcement officer of all the laws of the United States. Please do your duty to stop the trashing of our basic law.

You are the man who can make this thing right - at least until we get the judges, the media, and the people weaned off the Kool-Aid. Please let me know if I can help you in any way, but I need YOU to help our country - it’s either that or we can kiss it goodbye.

Sincerely,

(I signed with my complete contact information)


108 posted on 10/25/2008 10:12:02 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Calpernia
The precident has been set that the citizens have no standing.

It's breathtaking, isn't it?

The appeals should be interesting.

I knew there were several others underway- I haven't read them, have you? Do any seem better suited for a favorable ruling?

109 posted on 10/25/2008 10:12:30 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Scarchin

Screw you AH!


110 posted on 10/25/2008 10:12:55 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: nufsed

There are currently lawsuits in nine different states on this subject. The lawsuits allege that the Secretaries of State failed to uphold their respective duties as the officials in charge of elections when they did not certify/verify that Barack Obama is eligible to be on the ballot as a presidential candidate.

I don’t know what will come from these suits, but I suspect that time is too short for anyone to do anything before the election. The ballots have been printed and distributed to all counties/cities. They cannot be reprinted and redistributed in time for the election.

Greta Van Sustren has publicly called for all of the candidates to release their birth certificates, but only because she’s sick of all of the e-mails on this subject.

Bill O’Reilly has called this issue “Internet garbage” and refuses to investigate it or even discuss it with Berg on the air.


111 posted on 10/25/2008 10:14:10 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: The Californian

:) No offense taken- and believe me, I share your frustration.

I knew I was in for some flaming this morning anyway- I flat out have problems with the people in the limelight bringing these issues to attention (Berg, Martin and Corsi).

Regardless- Obama has lied, is lying, and will continue to lie to us. And we watch grown adults who should know better get sucked in by him.

God help us.


112 posted on 10/25/2008 10:18:56 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Technical Editor

How fast can we do a class action suit, asking everyone in the country to sign online somewhere if they want to know whether Barack H. Obama is eligible to be President of the United States of America by virtue of his natural birth?

I personally believe he was born in Hawaii and eligible, but I’d still like to know for sure.


113 posted on 10/25/2008 10:23:35 AM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: DNME
When I enlisted in the Air Force, my oath of enlistment called for me to “uphold and defend the Constitution.” Would that give me standing?

I say, hell yes.

114 posted on 10/25/2008 10:25:00 AM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: Technical Editor

Would it be possible, if Obama won the election, for a strong red state to sue the federal government if they were being forced to have a President that did not meet the requirements to be President, under our great Constitution, upon which all our laws are based?


115 posted on 10/25/2008 10:28:15 AM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: Technical Editor

Bush will never do this. Not in a million years.


116 posted on 10/25/2008 10:29:36 AM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: The Californian
This issue, and the way Joe W. had his privacy invaded are both huge issues for me. Joe and his story are certainly out there, but this seems like it should come down to a local issue.

....."Remember the Obama girl from Texarkana being swept under the carpet....The Thought Police....

I want to file a counter complaint that false charges were made, that a false report was given to a peace officer. The Secret Service told me I cannot because they will protect the identity of the complainant. I also want the file they have on me destroyed and I want to know that my phone isn't tapped, etcetera. I am hearing a lot of 'Out of my Jurisdiction'.

Do I also hear jackboots?

Jessica Hughes Lufkin, Texas"

117 posted on 10/25/2008 10:35:05 AM PDT by danamco
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To: Logical me
Another case in point that judges are out of control. Really supports the theory that we are no longer a democracy but heavily leaning to a communists America.

It is time to buy this book: Mark Levin authored the bestselling book, Men In Black: How The Supreme Court Is Destroying America (ISBN 0-89526-050-6), in which Levin claims that members of the judicial branch have "legislated from the bench."

118 posted on 10/25/2008 10:40:07 AM PDT by danamco
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To: imfrmdixie
You can be a Senator/Legislator (state and federal) or a Governor and not be natural born. We take for granted that these people are qualified for President or Vice President simply because they have already been holding an office.

(No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.)

In the city of Al Capone everything is possible!

I assume he sneaked through the cracks by the help of that city's ilks because of the racist's "no-touch" issue and was accepted on face value!!

Has there ever been such a screwed up criminal offense in the history of our 230 (something) Presidential election with million$ of million$ of dollar$ unaccounted for from Islamic/Jihadists nations to tilt this election. It is mind boggling we allow this to happen to our country!!!

119 posted on 10/25/2008 10:54:29 AM PDT by danamco
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To: Scarchin
Name ONE respectable person who is pushing this story.

As a TEACHER..(?)...you just gave thousands of Freepers here the stamp that we are NOT respectable persons!!!

120 posted on 10/25/2008 10:58:13 AM PDT by danamco
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To: BuckeyeTexan
If the democrat or any party is running a candidate that is not qualified. It is the responsibility of the party. It was the responsibility of the secretaries of state to vet the candidates. If a candidate cannot show they are qualified then votes for that candidate do not count.

Here's what SHOULD happen. A secretary of state should inform the candidate that he has until Thursday at noon to prove that he is a "natural born" citizen. If the candidate refuses or is unable to do so, the secretary of state should declare that that candidate's votes will not be counted.

The party has four days to put out the word about writing in another name. I would assume for the dems that would be Hillary Clinton.

The system must work in favor of the voter's rights to an honest election. The elected officials, judges, and candidates must be held to that expectation.

The tragedy of the Penn ruling is that a judge could have done by that by just deciding against a person who ignored the proceedings and refused to produce a simple document. Had 1 judge done so by now, it would have given the party more days to reposition it's messages to the voters.

121 posted on 10/25/2008 11:05:31 AM PDT by nufsed
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To: nufsed

Is there not ONE Secretary of State willing to stand up and be counted?

This situation is grieving me.


122 posted on 10/25/2008 11:08:36 AM PDT by The Californian
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To: BuckeyeTexan
How many of the judges with these filings are working today? Remember how people worked, including judges, to resolve the 2000 case?

If we let them know we expect a resolution, they will get it done.

123 posted on 10/25/2008 11:12:16 AM PDT by nufsed
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To: The Californian
Spineless. I e-mailed the Cal secretary yesterday. I'll call the office Monday. If we don't stand up, they won't. We have to billow the flames to get the balloon to rise.
124 posted on 10/25/2008 11:14:00 AM PDT by nufsed
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To: nufsed

I’ll call also. Think I’ll call Feinstein’s office as well. She is “supposed” to represent me too (although I have never voted for her).


125 posted on 10/25/2008 11:15:39 AM PDT by The Californian
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To: The Californian
To my liberal brother, there is not one thing I can say that would persuade him away from Obama.

The DNC liberals are an incurable disease until death!

My (D) mother-in-law would never allow any black person to be invited to the family Xmas parties, until I married her then also (D) daughter (not anymore) and I refused to show up if I could NOT invite my black prayer partners, which she reluctantly agreed to. (BTW I think granny in Hawaii feels same way about Michelle Ma Bell)!!

My mother-in-law an avid Clinton supporter is NOW voting for a "black" man, go figure!!!

126 posted on 10/25/2008 11:16:05 AM PDT by danamco
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To: nufsed

I would say its about a quarter-till “torches and pitchforks”


127 posted on 10/25/2008 11:18:03 AM PDT by jeffo (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1372399/posts)
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To: danamco

Actually, although my liberal white brother will be going Obama, surprisingly my very Union, Democrat Father and mother in law are both voting McCain. They have never voted for a Republican in their lives.

Usually at our church there are about 1/3 of the people voting Democrat, but I can’t find a single one of them who are not voting for McCain. I had a lot of long (sometimes loud) conversations regarding Clinton, Kerry, etc. but can’t find ANYONE willing to defend Obama. Even the ones I could just about guarantee would go Democrat are not.

For what it is worth.


128 posted on 10/25/2008 11:20:04 AM PDT by The Californian
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To: The Californian

Great. We need calls and e-mails to every secretary of state. I don’t know why there aren’t suits in all 50 states. I have noticed that democrats are filing the suits.


129 posted on 10/25/2008 11:20:13 AM PDT by nufsed
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To: The Californian

Unfortunately I believe that this country will be a socialist country very soon. If not in this election, then certainly soon thereafter. We have allowed ourselves to be battered into submission by all of this politically correct crap, by the minorities taking rights over the majority, by electing lawyers into government instead of business men/women, by subjugating ourselves to those who graduated from the liberal colleges, by allowing liberal professors and teachers to ‘train’ our children, by letting God be moved out of our government and public lives, by allowing history to be rewritten according to the liberal view, by condoning bad behavior in our leaders through apathy or ignorance, by not standing together on important issues such as this one....insuring that our political candidates are qualified, by listening to the brainwashing of the MSM, by being manipulated by force from the liberal side. The only thing I am going to enjoy (should I live long enough) in a socialist society is watching those who have lived their lives off the backs of others having to do community service, etc...because everyone contributes in a socialist society. I am terribly sad that we have lazy people in our society who just will not face the truth and the reality of what is happening. I am very happy in my own selfishness to know that my life happened during the days of the greatest country on earth. I am very very unhappy to know that my child and all like her and their children will not know this wonder....this wonder named the United States of America. God has indeed shown His grace on thee.


130 posted on 10/25/2008 11:20:20 AM PDT by imfrmdixie
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To: annieokie
Surrick was most likely paid big bucks for this decision.

Most people don't think that is possible. My wife has certainly experienced that with her divorce case!!!

131 posted on 10/25/2008 11:20:38 AM PDT by danamco
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To: imfrmdixie

Well said.


132 posted on 10/25/2008 11:23:31 AM PDT by The Californian
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To: jeffo

I am a poll worker and I am considering backing out and not participating in the election. It is something I am thinking about. I have never experienced this type of situation, but I will stand on my own personal ethics and make a decision.


133 posted on 10/25/2008 11:26:59 AM PDT by nufsed
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To: Technical Editor

I sent emails requesting help to Rush, Boortz, Hannity, Greta. I said ALL candidates need to produce an accurate and real copy of their birth certificates as filed in their respective states. I am going to email the Florida Secretary of State and the Director of the office of elections and President Bush. I learned a long time ago when trying to get another issue addressed in Washington that unless you are a resident of the state you are writing, they will not pay any attention to what you say.


134 posted on 10/25/2008 11:28:13 AM PDT by imfrmdixie
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To: nufsed
Spineless. I e-mailed the Cal secretary yesterday. I'll call the office Monday. If we don't stand up, they won't. We have to billow the flames to get the balloon to rise.

After hearing the Savage Nation, I e-mailed our Secretary with copy to his boss Charlie Crist with the link to Micheal Savage's interview with Mr. Berg:

http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/?pageId=2256

If somebody can get this link posted correctly, I will appreciate it!!!

135 posted on 10/25/2008 11:38:35 AM PDT by danamco
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To: NoobRep
Noob: There are many valid concerns regarding the birth certificate and citizenship. Argue along those lines...don't result to silly personal attacks. Calling someone a troll who is clearly not is a dem tactic. If you can't have a logical discussion without instantly resorting to an ad hominem attack...then perhaps you are on the wrong forum. We used to have a level of decency here on FR and debate was hot, heavy...but relevant. Then...along came an influx of noobs and anyone who dared have a diff of opinion or didn't tote some party line was instantly called names.

Pretty sad...and sophomoric.

136 posted on 10/25/2008 11:43:29 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: fireman15
I'm with you on this, but McCain will never do it nor do I think Sara will.

The media calls us "MEAN SPIRITED" on anything we do, yet they can literally destroy a person, humiliate them at will and they never feel any remorse.

This smells of PAYOFF big time for this judge, how conveniently it came when the culprit was out of DODGE, thereby it would not be connected to him. Convenient to that his granny got SO SICK.

Basically this Judge says "WE the people have no constitutional authority to file a case, HUH? Who else but us was the Constitution created for. HE was paid off.

137 posted on 10/25/2008 11:57:40 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: danamco
We are living in the meanest America I have ever seen, it is run by the greedy, mean spirited Democrats, RINO's, lawyers, judges, etc., they have complete control over all we do and soon to get more. They just allow us to think we have some freedoms, we don't, for they have the power to control the courts, judges, IRS, or any authority it will take to shut our mouths.

Look what they are doing to SARA and JOE the Plumber, unmercifully attempting to destroying their lives. These little people have to be SHUT UP and NOW, or the little people POWER WILL GROW. The media and hollyweird bastards continue to do their little minion jobs, good little soldiers for the Islamic/Socialist cause.

THIS JUDGE was in my opinion PAID OFF BIG TIME, and Obama has more from where that came from, open spigot.

Time for the LITTLE PEOPLE MOVEMENT TO GROW. GO Joe the Plumber's everywhere, Joe the Electrician, Joe the Fireman, etc, etc., etc. Time for them to run for office and destroy that nest of Washington VIPERS before it is to late. If not perhaps we need to watch Independence Day again and start over.

138 posted on 10/25/2008 12:11:20 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: Technical Editor

The judge is saying that only the government can determine if the constitution has been violated.

Our Founders created the Constitution to limit the Government.

The need for US Constitution is the same as the need for Lindburghs plane.

Move the Constitution to the Smithsonian.


139 posted on 10/25/2008 12:48:19 PM PDT by NoLibZone (As insane as McCain is , my principles can't allow someone like Huessein to be president.)
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To: Technical Editor
If, through the political process, Congress determines that citizens, voters, or party members should police the Constitution’s eligibility requirements for the Presidency, then it is free to pass laws conferring standing on individuals like Plaintiff.

The Constitution says that no person below age 221 who is not a naturalized born citizen may become President. It is the right and duty of all citizens to ensure that the Constitution is followed. Unfortunately, courts have for a long time been ignoring that fact in order to shield an increasingly-lawless government from scrutiny.

140 posted on 10/25/2008 1:57:24 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: Technical Editor

Regarding standing, how can the court say that a voter does not have standing when we, the people, are the government (“of the people, by the people and for the people”)? When “We the People of the United States” form our government and Amendment X plainly states that, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,” who does have standing? If I am not mistaken, the power to vette is not delineated in the Constitution, thereby reserving that power to the States or the people.


141 posted on 10/25/2008 3:14:58 PM PDT by bonnieblue4me (You can put lipstick on a donkey (or a dimrat), but it is still an ass!)
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To: Technical Editor

If a Canadian child came with his parents into New York State from Toronto and upon reaching the age of 18 became an American citizen, assuming he never told anyone he was originally born a Canadian and in his mid-40’s decided to run for President, is any proof required of Constitutional eligibility in order to file for candidacy, obtain petition signatures, declare candidacy or get on a ballot?


142 posted on 10/25/2008 3:49:05 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Kevmo
***Obama got to him.

Kev, big ditto here. with the kind of money that Obama has, a lot of people can be bought, bribed, or threatened.

We need to force the issue with the MSM -- maybe stage an active boycott of the news, a boycott of their advertisers, and a boycott of the station.

Start with the news show that has the lowest Neilsen ratings.

143 posted on 10/25/2008 3:53:23 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Paine in the Neck

Wouldn’t anyone who is eligible to vote have standing?


144 posted on 10/25/2008 3:54:13 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Polarik

I don’t think Obama has enough bucks to get to the Supreme Court. So the fact that Berg is appealing to the supremes is good news. Also, how can the MSM pretend this story doesn’t exist any more?


145 posted on 10/25/2008 7:55:50 PM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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To: Polarik

***Obama got to him.
Kev, big ditto here.

***By the way, my theory is similar with the API folks. I think they have a tape of Michelle Obama and they are simply trying to shake down Obama for cash. In order for him to know they mean business, they have to prove to him that they can look like fools for the right amount of money. So they keep stringing everyone along, looking like Nigerian scam artists. I’m looking at that story with this skewed perspective and wondering when the other shoe will drop — they’ll have to say there were technical difficulties, or it sounded like Michelle O but was someone else. They’ll only do that when they have the cash in hand, and I’m not sure that’s taken place just yet. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have been negotiating with Fox News.


146 posted on 10/25/2008 7:59:56 PM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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To: Kevmo
LEt's let them know:

http://rumormillnews.com/MEDIA_EMAIL_ADDRESSES.htm

147 posted on 10/26/2008 8:09:02 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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