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Days of rage: There's something happening here (David Reinhard)
The Oregonian ^ | October 25, 2008 | David Reinhard

Posted on 10/26/2008 9:05:33 AM PDT by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo
I love politics and public policy, but the ugliness, the anger, the coarseness and even the threats of violence I've experienced as a conservative opinion-writer in achingly "tolerant" Portland have contributed to my decision to leave the business after this election. My heart was starting to harden -- do we conservatives not have hearts, do we not bleed? -- and I didn't want that to happen.

Liberals ARE NOT TOLERANT except to themselves and their pet victim groups.

It would be as if we bragged about how tolerant we were - and to prove it we said we were "tolerant" of gun owners, conservatives, right to lifers, small government groups etc.

HAVE YOU EVER MET A LIBERAL WHO WAS TOLERANT OF ANY GROUP THAT WASN'T 'DEMOCRAT"?

NEVER.

We lost the voice of a good man... I understand. When I look at our natural freeper leaders over the years and realize how many have died of highly aggressive cancers, I get scared some times too.

Baghdad Bob had an excuse - there was a boot on his neck. What's MSM's excuse?

81 posted on 10/26/2008 10:43:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (Baghdad Bob had an excuse - there was a boot on his neck. What's AP's excuse?)
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To: RipSawyer
Yesterday I went to the fair for the first time in years, I am fairly certain it will be my last time. I got to the gate and was told that I could not carry my pocket knife in so I took it back to the car, my wife had a small knife in her purse which she also left in the car.

Ironically, it is this kind of statism that people on this very forum cheered when it was pushed by Bush & Company as part of the "war on terror". We are close to seeing that same statism in the hands of our own mortal enemies if Obama steals this election.

Those that give up freedom for security will soon have neither. And deserve neither.

82 posted on 10/26/2008 10:46:55 AM PDT by meyer (The second amendment is NOT about hunting)
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To: Klepto

Sounds as though for some odd reason the liberals you’ve interacted with have been gentlemanly, or something else.

Talk shop only? never discussed “divisive” topics? Or maybe you’re a “fiscal conservative but socially liberal” kind of guy?

Dunno.


83 posted on 10/26/2008 10:47:52 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: GOPJ
What's MSM's excuse?

Government schools.

84 posted on 10/26/2008 10:48:30 AM PDT by meyer (The second amendment is NOT about hunting)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger; TigerLikesRooster
The democrats laid the foundation for the financial crisis through their policies, obstructed reform that might have prevented the crisis, and then have the audacity to blame the problem on “George Bush's failed policies”.

You're right on this.

85 posted on 10/26/2008 10:48:57 AM PDT by GOPJ (Baghdad Bob had an excuse - there was a boot on his neck. What's AP's excuse?)
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To: GOPJ
Very good post.

Liberals ARE NOT TOLERANT

You're dead on the mark. And the more concentrated an area is of liberals the less tolerant and more radical they are.

86 posted on 10/26/2008 10:49:40 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: wardaddy
It's very worrying when campaign buttons for the likely winner unopologetically feature communist symbolism. (This is originally from an ad on Facebook.)


87 posted on 10/26/2008 10:54:08 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: little jeremiah

Maybe it’s the nature of what I have done in my life throwing my in with a lot of diverse people. Maybe it’s the lawyer mentality of being able to argue a position with which you personally don’t agree. I dunno. Maybe my perception is unique because of that. *shrug* Maybe it’s being older and being from the South where things were slower. And as a former attorney/judge god knows I and my friends don’t shy from controversial subjects. But, I have just found that when people are taken out or a “group think” mentality we really aren’t all that different.


88 posted on 10/26/2008 10:54:37 AM PDT by Klepto
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To: meyer
The MSM has no excuse.

They don't have to represent one side. They don't have to be narrow minded bigots.

They could treat the news process fairly.

TheMSM chose voluntarily to do what Baghdad Bob was forced to do.

They chose to give up the dignity of covering the news - no matter who it helped or who it hurt - and became "company men".

"Yes men" to the dems.

Butt boys.

Baghdad Bob.

89 posted on 10/26/2008 10:55:30 AM PDT by GOPJ (Baghdad Bob had an excuse - there was a boot on his neck. What's AP's excuse?)
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To: MediaMole

yep

and those WPA Socialist 30s looking artwork posters and stickers

with hope and change and whatnot

they don’t even try to hide their aims


90 posted on 10/26/2008 10:56:06 AM PDT by wardaddy (when will the folk songs about Barack begin?)
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To: meyer
The MSM has no excuse.

They don't have to represent one side. They don't have to be narrow minded bigots.

They could treat the news process fairly.

TheMSM chose voluntarily to do what Baghdad Bob was forced to do.

They chose to give up the dignity of covering the news. The dignity that comes when news is covered no matter who it helped or who it hurts.

The MSM became "company men".

"Yes men" (to the dems).

Butt boys.

Baghdad Bob.

91 posted on 10/26/2008 10:57:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (Baghdad Bob had an excuse - there was a boot on his neck. What's AP's excuse?)
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To: wardaddy
wardaddy said: "where do you find middle ground on?
abortion.
ignoring the second amendment
wealth redistribution
radical islamist with nukes
voter fraud which is obviously almost exclusively a Democrat operation in minority areas

I agree. One can hope that the Heller decision stops Kalifornia from proceeding down the slippery slope to civilian disarmament. But nobody should doubt that that is the goal of the liberals here and that an Obama Supreme Court can put this issue on the fast track.

92 posted on 10/26/2008 10:59:17 AM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: jazusamo

What a shame that David Reinhard has been hounded out of publishing because of the left wing nut-roots in Portland.

The Oregonian and the entire region it serves is diminished by this and the people who are responsible for the kind of reprehensible treatment that has been leveled against this man and his family ought to be ashamed, but I know they are rejoicing instead.


93 posted on 10/26/2008 10:59:46 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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To: jazusamo

Hell no. I intend to treat “the one” with the same repsect the left has treated Bush. That is I’ll be putting “Barack jacked the election” stickers on my car. I will rant endlessly about the state of the economy, the ongoing war, the loss of rights, inflation, etc.


94 posted on 10/26/2008 11:03:08 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Bean Counter

I couldn’t agree more, BC.


95 posted on 10/26/2008 11:06:31 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

We have seen this hatred and violence for more than twenty years from the leftist environmental community. Portland http://portland.indymedia.org/ and San Francisco http://www.ruckus.org/ are among the worst. Once they have inroads into the Democrat party and gain power, they do everything to “rule” conservatives by destroying traditional economies with regulation and forcing their ideology on conservative areas. Welcome to the world of the rural west.


96 posted on 10/26/2008 11:13:08 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: little jeremiah

I guess I am a fool to believe that United We Stand. So be it.


97 posted on 10/26/2008 11:33:48 AM PDT by itsPatAmerican
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To: itsPatAmerican
I know my rational attitude on this topic is somewhat controversial

I looked for evidence of your "rational attitude" in your posts, but what I found instead can better be described as "wishful thinking".

Follow the evidence where it leads, rather than dismissing it out of hand as the irrelevant actions of a loud and delusional yet essentially powerless 'fringe'.

On a purely rational level, haven't you seen overwhelming and undeniable evidence that this election is not 'just like any other election'? For example, is there any possible reasonable doubt that media bias this time around is unprecedented in modern history in its blatant and pervasive tilt in favor of Obama, with the clear goal of hiding the truth about Obama rather than discovering and revealing the truth about Obama, at least long enough to install him in office, after which the discovery and publicization of any and all heretofore-damaging revelations will be moot?

Isn't the evidence undeniable that massive, coordinated, and unprecedented violation of election laws is going on to ensure an Obama 'win', whether it be the money laundering and outright fraud that the Obama campaign has engaged in to accept cash while disguising its foreign and criminal sources, or the organized effort to subvert the voter registration process, or the chilling handiwork of all those "public servants" misusing their offices through threats and coercion and outright contempt for the law in order to ensure one and only one permissible outcome?

These are not illusions, nor are they the work of a fringe. The fringe has neither the power nor the money to effect these things on this scale. Clearly something else is going on.

You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to state the evidence and then inexorably conclude that such things are being deliberately orchestrated by an unholy alliance between Democrat party leaders and the institutional Left that has been building its power and influence for decades for precisely this purpose, in concert with other (foreign and domestic) enemies of the Nation as a whole, propelled by purposeful subversion, wholesale intimidation, and mind-boggling supplies of dirty money to grease the skids. Such corrpution may have been in evidence in the past in some big cities or even in some statehouses, but never has it been seen on the nationwide scale and with the chilling effectiveness that is evident this time around. Can you point to any other national election that has seen anything close to what has gone on this time around? I didn't think so...

How can any analysis be described as 'rational' when it studiously avoids dealing with the evidence that is in plain sight, and instead relies on calm assurances that it's only an impotent fringe that is dealing in such calumny?

98 posted on 10/26/2008 11:34:46 AM PDT by Zeppo (Every mighty mild... seventies child... Beats me (Metric - Combat Baby))
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To: jazusamo

Liberals just love to hate. It’s what they do. They’re moral relativists and can justify anything they want to do.

Scratch a Liberal, find a Fascist.


99 posted on 10/26/2008 11:36:50 AM PDT by Brucifer ("The dog ate my copy of the Constitution." G W Bush)
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To: jazusamo
I love politics and public policy, but the ugliness, the anger, the coarseness and even the threats of violence I've experienced as a conservative opinion-writer in achingly "tolerant" Portland have contributed to my decision to leave the business after this election.

So in actual fact the sword IS mightier than the pen.

100 posted on 10/26/2008 11:42:55 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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