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Boy, 8, fatally shoots self with Uzi at gun show
YahooNews.com ^ | October 28, 2008 | SUSAN HAIGH

Posted on 10/28/2008 11:08:51 AM PDT by raybbr

WESTFIELD, Mass. -- With an instructor watching, an 8-year-old boy at a gun fair aimed an Uzi at a pumpkin and pulled the trigger as his dad reached for a camera. Advertisement Quantcast

It was his first time shooting a fully automatic machine gun, and the recoil of the weapon was too much for him. He lost control and fatally shot himself in the head.

Now gun safety experts — and some gun enthusiasts at the club where the shooting happened — are wondering why such a young child was allowed to fire a weapon used in war. Local, state and federal authorities are also investigating whether everyone involved had proper licenses or if anyone committed a criminal act.

"It's easy to lose control of a weapon like that ... they are used on a battleground for a very good reason," said Jerry Belair, a spokesman for Stop Handgun Violence, based in Newton, Mass. "It's to shoot as many times as you possibly can without having to reload at an enemy that's approaching. It's not a toy. It's not something to play with."

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1 posted on 10/28/2008 11:08:51 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: raybbr

Prayers for the family.


2 posted on 10/28/2008 11:10:13 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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OOOPS! Wrong headline. Should be: “Boy, 8, fatally shoots self with Uzi at gun show”.

Sorry.


3 posted on 10/28/2008 11:11:14 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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This was incredibly stupid. That being said, if a drunk driver caused the only fatality in history at a four way stop, would it be reason to put in a light?

Nothing should be done here beyond the parties actually involved in the specific misshap. If this were happening on a more regular basis I would feel differently. It isn’t.


4 posted on 10/28/2008 11:11:33 AM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: raybbr

How Horrible!!! May Our Lord give this father peace.
I would have to say that the Dad is not military. I think my hubby would know how much of a kick this weapon had.

I hope.


5 posted on 10/28/2008 11:12:33 AM PDT by netmilsmom ( Obama And Osama both have friends who bombed the Pentagon)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?s=Boy+Uzi&ok=Search&q=quick&m=any&o=time&SX=49076350386e57ed89b0317b2466f26a6cb02d9b


6 posted on 10/28/2008 11:14:12 AM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: raybbr

What the HELL were they thinking???


7 posted on 10/28/2008 11:14:54 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: raybbr

It was a micro uzi... even grown ups have a hard time with them...


8 posted on 10/28/2008 11:15:49 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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Seems to me the dad did commit a criminal act... In Massachusetts, isn’t it a crime to give a firearm to a minor? If not, he is at least guilty of voluntary manslaughter. It is like putting a grenade in the lap of a blind parapalegic. The father killed the son, not the son killing himself. I hope they convict the bastard father.

That said, in most cases, guns save lives, not take them. It is losers like this father who give the second amendment a bad name.


9 posted on 10/28/2008 11:16:36 AM PDT by wrhssaxensemble
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To: xcamel

Well, I did a search with the above title and nothing came up.


10 posted on 10/28/2008 11:16:36 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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I really wonder who thought it would be OK to let an 8-year-old fire that weapon.

I've never shot an Uzi, but I've fired a CAR-15 and an MP-5 (both in 9mm). The recoil of any single shot is small, but when combined in quick succession, it's really easy for it to get out of control.

Unfortunately, this will be chalked up as another reason for gun control, or at least further restrictions on full-auto weapons. But, if an 8-year-old had died while driving an automobile, motorcycle, or ATV -- the guardian/adult that gave him access would be properly assigned responsibility for the death.

11 posted on 10/28/2008 11:17:09 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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Give me a break.

An 8 year old with a loaded uzi. What are we...Palestinians?

I can see the kid with a Red Rider or a .22 long rifle.

Definite screwup on the part of his old man.


12 posted on 10/28/2008 11:17:24 AM PDT by montomike (If you didn't find this funny or amusing...have a worldwide riot.)
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To: wrhssaxensemble

If not voluntary, then probably involuntary


13 posted on 10/28/2008 11:17:44 AM PDT by wrhssaxensemble
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Sad, sad situation... It is not the fault of the child. It is the fault of the supposed instructor that was supposed to be there looking out for him.

Of all the Uzi variants, the mini-Uzi is the HARDEST to control because the pistol itself has less mass than any of the other variants but yet shoots the same 9mm round. This is not the same Uzi that so many are use to seeing... The full size Uzi, if you tuck it in tight and lean into it, can empty the entire mag and stay on target. The mini-Uzi is a small, yet cumbersome (in my opinion) pistol that will indeed rotate upward if you do not understand how to fire a controlled burst. Let it rotate too far and this is what happens. I am by no means anti-gun - it is how I make my living. But at the least, someone in this incident is guilty of criminally negligent homicide.

Lord please take the child in your arms... May God bless the family and what they are about to go through...

Raven6

14 posted on 10/28/2008 11:21:22 AM PDT by Raven6 (The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.)
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The father is criminally negligent, and should be punished to the maximum extent possible.

Stupahs like him give law-abiding gun owners a bad name.


15 posted on 10/28/2008 11:23:45 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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Even this guy is surprised by the recoil.
16 posted on 10/28/2008 11:23:57 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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I saw this story yesterday somewhere else. This poor little boy, surrounded by “adults” who should’ve known better. This would not have happened if any of those “adults” had had an ounce of common sense.


17 posted on 10/28/2008 11:25:03 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: justlurking

Exactly.

I can understand teaching a child about firearms (namely how to use the properly and safely), but why the hell did this boy’s father and the instructor allow this 8 year old to handle a weapon as powerful as an Uzi?

Both the father and the instructor present should be charged with negligent manslaughter.


18 posted on 10/28/2008 11:26:17 AM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: wrhssaxensemble
Seems to me the dad did commit a criminal act... In Massachusetts, isn’t it a crime to give a firearm to a minor? If not, he is at least guilty of voluntary manslaughter. It is like putting a grenade in the lap of a blind parapalegic. The father killed the son, not the son killing himself. I hope they convict the bastard father.

The father, the "instructor" and anyone else who watched this happen.

According to the article, "It is legal in Massachusetts for children to fire a weapon if they have permission from a parent or legal guardian and they are supervised by a properly certified and licensed instructor, Nunez said." But this little boy obviously couldn't handle the weapon, and they should have known it.

This isn't just a tragedy - it ought to be a crime.

That said, in most cases, guns save lives, not take them. It is losers like this father who give the second amendment a bad name.

Exactly. Too many people are all-to-eager to blame the guns, and the morons who run this gun show just handed them a prime opportunity.

19 posted on 10/28/2008 11:27:37 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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The father is criminally negligent, and should be punished to the maximum extent possible.

Not that I disagree with you but...I think he will be...and for the rest of his life.

20 posted on 10/28/2008 11:29:39 AM PDT by tsmith130
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