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Refiners Look to Reduce Production as Falling Gas Prices Cut Into Profits
WSJ ^ | 27 Oct 2008 | ANA CAMPOY

Posted on 10/29/2008 8:42:47 AM PDT by BGHater

As falling gasoline prices squeeze refining profits, there are signs that refiners are ratcheting back production to pare losses.

Gasoline output, which had been expanding as U.S. refineries came back online after hurricane-related shutdowns, dropped for the first time in weeks, according to data reported last week from the Department of Energy. Philadelphia refiner Sunoco Inc. said last week that it is shutting down a unit used in gasoline production at one of its refineries, though it declined to say why.

"It makes no sense to be running [equipment] if they're not making any money," said Daniel Katzenberg, an analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.

Following oil prices down, the cost of gasoline tumbled to a national average of $2.699 for a regular gallon Sunday, far from its high of $4.114 in July, according to the auto club AAA. That has brought relief to consumers and businesses nationwide -- but not refiners.

The business of processing crude oil into gasoline suffered earlier this year as oil prices skyrocketed to $145 a barrel in July. Refiners were unable to pass on the higher cost to consumers who balked at paying record-high prices at the pump. Refining profit margins collapsed, and many companies resorted to production cutbacks, making for some of the lowest operating rates at U.S. refineries in years.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: fuel; gas; oil; refineries

1 posted on 10/29/2008 8:42:48 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: thackney

PING!


2 posted on 10/29/2008 8:49:08 AM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: BGHater

Actually, low feed-stock prices are an opportunity for refiners to make money, but not if the price at the pump falls faster than the price of crude.

It’ll all work out. It always does.


3 posted on 10/29/2008 8:50:15 AM PDT by marron
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To: BGHater
And refiners lost lots of money when gas prices were soaring!

I guess they make money when things are nice and stable...

4 posted on 10/29/2008 9:07:55 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: BGHater
"As falling gasoline prices squeeze refining profits, there are signs that refiners are ratcheting back production to pare losses."

What nonsense. The barrel prices are still well into the profit margin. Funny, before the barrel price began to rise these prices were just fine, Oil companies were still making billions in profits.

The only ones being squeezed at the current barrel prices are the consumers.

5 posted on 10/29/2008 9:09:39 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: BGHater

Maybe the refiners could use a bailout. To the helicopter, Ben! Magic monopoly money for all!


6 posted on 10/29/2008 9:09:39 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

1.88/gal here in Indy today
filled my tank with a $20 bill
sweet


7 posted on 10/29/2008 9:11:35 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: mysterio

Now that right there is funny, the feds coming to the rescue of the oil industry!!!!

Only when hell starts serving ice cream to the guests.


8 posted on 10/29/2008 9:12:24 AM PDT by biff
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To: nascarnation

Good thing I filled before I crassed the border this morning. Still $5 in Canada (imperial gallon mind you)


9 posted on 10/29/2008 9:12:51 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: nascarnation
1.88/gal here in Indy today

Sweet indeed!

10 posted on 10/29/2008 9:13:51 AM PDT by realdifferent1 (Circle final answer: show all work for extra credit.)
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To: mysterio
lmao
11 posted on 10/29/2008 9:15:14 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (Proud Father of 2 US Marines. Support our troops!)
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To: nascarnation

Roughly about $3.20 per us gallon.


12 posted on 10/29/2008 9:16:02 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

I’ve slashed my fuel consumption by 33% at least.


13 posted on 10/29/2008 9:25:23 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale Florida (Broward country))
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To: Roccus
As falling gasoline prices squeeze refining profits ...

Well, boo freakin' hoo.

14 posted on 10/29/2008 9:37:21 AM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: Roccus

There is a squeeze alright on the refiners right now. Just look at the Spot market (immediate delivery, not futures) Crude Price versus the Gasoline Price in the Gulf Coast.

Crude Oil average $65.57/barrel.

Regular Conventional Gasoline $1.48/gallon or $62.50/barrel.

That is a $3 loss for the work of refining the crude into gasoline.

Petroleum Spot Prices
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_spt_s1_d.htm


15 posted on 10/29/2008 10:17:59 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Thanks thackney, you always have good dope.


16 posted on 10/29/2008 10:43:20 AM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: Roccus

Obviously it is not a situation that is going to last very long. Contracts will be met but who is going to continue running crude through a refinery to lower the price?


17 posted on 10/29/2008 10:49:35 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: nascarnation

$1.88???

We’re still paying $2.50 or so in North Alabama. The past month we finally quit having spot outages.


18 posted on 10/29/2008 10:51:49 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24

Very simple who will operate a refinery at a loss. Since a great many of those refineries are owned by the same oil companies that helped drive up the prince of oil allowing them to post record breaking profits, they can eat the cost. For those that are independently owned, which are few, they will just have to suffer.

It’s not right to strip the little guys and rake us over the coals for years, and then scream foul when they end up losing a mere .001 percent of their profit. I don’t know the exact number, but I can rest well knowing that their losses arefar offset by their profit.


19 posted on 10/31/2008 10:26:02 AM PDT by macinslaw
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