Posted on 10/29/2008 12:04:27 PM PDT by lizol
Vote Obama and Russia will invade Poland!
Created: 29.10.2008 12:46
A US Christian fundamentalist group warns that if Barrack Obama is elected president then the Kremlin will takeover governments in Warsaw, Budapest and Prague…
The group, Focus on the Family, has released a sixteen-page “Letter from 2012 in Obama’s America” that presents their vision of what would happen should Democratic candidate, Barack Obama, win the US presidential election.
The letter, an intense attack on the presidential hopeful, paints a picture of a world in which Russia has taken over Poland (again), governs the Baltic States and Al Qaeda takes over Iraq and repeatedly attacks the U.S.
Imagining, from a perspective sometime in 2012, possible outcomes of an Obama presidency, the letter says: “In 2009, [Russia follows] the pattern they had began in Georgia in 2008 and sent troops to occupy and re-take several Eastern European countries, starting with Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Then in the next three years Russia occupied additional countries that had been previous Soviet satellite nations including Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Bulgaria with no military response from the US, or the UN […] Liberal commentators in both the US and Europe have uniformly expressed deep regret at the loss of freedom of these countries but have observed that the US cannot be the world’s policeman..”
The organization - which mainstream commentators regard as extremist - claims that Obama will legalize homosexual marriages nation-wide, liberalise abortion regulations so that they will become commonplace as a method of birth control and allow sex to be shown on television at all hours of the day.
Focus on the Family highlights what it imagines the dangers Poland faces under an Obama presidency: Russia will become the strongest force in Central and Eastern Europe and completely eliminate each country’s respective sovereignty. The letter claims that by 2011, the Kremlin could control the governments in Warsaw, Budapest and Prague with Washington acting as a completely passive bystander.
The letter, written by evangelical minister and founder of the organization, James Dobson, was posted on the groups website. It has been spread virally amongst the religious right in the US in an effort to step-up the attacks on Barack Obama before Tuesday’s election.
Revelation refers to Russia and several other countries according to scholars, but America is nowhere to be found—is that because Obamessiah wins and destroys the USA as we know it because he is one of the anti-Christs prophesied?
Things that make you go hmmmmmm.
FWIW, I think Russia will attempt a world takeover if there is no USA (at least as we know it) to fight it—there’s already talk of the military being decreased 25%, plus with all the damage an Obamessiah presidency would bring to global economics, Dr. Dobson may not be too far off the mark. Scary! :-O
“The organization - which mainstream commentators regard as extremist “
Focus on the Family is extremist?
Apparently there are still some Pollocks in Poland!
They can’t ALL be in the DBM...
Russia will invade Poland and Chavez will invade all of south America with the help of Russia and China.
With the Democrats in full control of Congress, they will advance policies mirrored by their special interest constituencies. James Dobson's remarks maybe be hypothetical, but they also are well founded. After all, past is prologue.
No, not automatically so. But Poland can not count on any support from the US under Obama, so it will be forced to make its own arrangements accordingly.
The organization - which mainstream commentators regard as extremist - claims that Obama will legalize homosexual marriages nation-wide, liberalise abortion regulations so that they will become commonplace as a method of birth control
Thats a certainty. It will happen the first year. Maybe the first month.
Will HE legalize medical marijuana too ?
In 2012 we’ll see just how much of an “extremist” Dobson is. Of course, if this all does happen, this letter will be conveniently forgotten.
I suppose, too, that some in the colonies may have thought Paul Revere to be an extremist.
After all, it wasn’t as if the Redcoats were right downstairs in the main street; they were miles away, if they were even coming at all.
Thank God for prudent men who remain vigilant.
And Taiwan is doomed because the Chicoms know they have nothing to fear from BO and the gutted military we will have after Democrat defense budget cuts.
I went to the Focus on the Family web site to find the letter. I was unable to do so.
Click the link in post #1
I did read what was on the link. However, I’m not sure the link is a Focus On The Family link.
Actually, to only a minority of Bible scholars. The passage you are speaking of is Rev. 20:7-9, where "Gog and Magog" are mentioned. No one really knows who these peoples are--especially since Russia was not a nation (only a vast territory with thousands of different tribes) when Revelation was written. Guesses as to the identity of Gog and Magog are:
* In Jewish traditions--Greeks, Assyrians, Sythians
* As Goths
* As Celts
* As Khazars
* As Israelites or Jews
* As Mongolians
* As Russia
* As European nations
* As Napoleon in Russia
Here's a decent description of historic Christian beliefs from Revelation about Gog & Magog:
"Gog and Magog" are first mentioned as a pair in the New Testament Book of Revelation, which draws on the depiction of them in the older prophetic works. They appear in verses 20:7-9 (United Bible Societies' Greek New Testament - 4th revised ed.)
7. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, :8. And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. (KJV)
Here, Gog and Magog are identified as the nations in the four corners of the earth, and their attack is represented as an eschatological crisis after the Millennium, to be vanquished by divine intervention.
Although the language of Gog and Magog's destruction is very similar to that of their mention in Ezekiel, premillennialist Christians believe that Ezekiel's prophecy and the description found in the Book of Revelation refer to two distinct eschatological events. According to this belief, the war described by Ezekiel occurs before the millennium (probably as an opening act of the apocalyptic era), while the event described in the Book of Revelation occurs at the end of the millenium era (as an event that directly leads to the closing of the millenium era). (From Wikipedia)
It's quite a stretch to understand Revelation as definitely referring to Russia...
A lotta Poles in the USA...
I’m far from being a biblical scholar such as yourself, I just remember taking a Bible study class on Revelation years ago, and this was discussed. It was about the 10 kingdoms, IIRC, and Russia was suggested because of mention of a bear? representing that country...it’s been almost 20 years since that class, so I don’t recall details, and Revelation’s (and a lot of Ezekiel’s) symbolism goes waaaaaaaaaaay over my blonde head. ;-) It just stuck with me over the years that there was no representation for America there, begging the question—what happens to America in end times?
That was was I was referring to in my post.
D’oh, I’m tired. That second ‘was’ should be ‘what’.
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