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McCain Ahead of Obama in Texas; 23 Percent Believe Obama Is Muslim
utexas ^ | Oct 30 2008

Posted on 10/30/2008 4:55:41 PM PDT by PRePublic

McCain Ahead of Obama in Texas; 23 Percent Believe Obama Is Muslim ... News from the University of Texas at Austin, TX - 6 hours ago The poll surveyed 550 registered voters in Texas Oct. 15-22, and had a margin of error of 4.2 percent. When asked to identify Obama's religion, ...

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: antichrist; election2008; husseinobama; mccain; muslim; obama; poll; tx; tx2008

1 posted on 10/30/2008 4:55:42 PM PDT by PRePublic
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To: PRePublic

A sneaky radical one at that.


2 posted on 10/30/2008 4:56:45 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Redistribute Obamas Wealth)
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To: PRePublic

I love Texas.


3 posted on 10/30/2008 4:59:14 PM PDT by andyandval
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To: PRePublic

HE IS NOT A MUSLIM, umh ah anymore. He was a kid muslim. Unless he is lying, like he lied about public financing, Iran being a threat, aborting babies etc.


4 posted on 10/30/2008 5:00:55 PM PDT by steve0
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To: Dallas59

Well as an Illinois native, while I haven’t been a fan of his politically, I have a pretty solid belief he is a fellow Christian. Heck he’s still indirectly tied to Wright - who is a Christian. I even asked this of Cardinal George here what he thought and he/Father Velo (George’s right hand guy) said he’s a Christian. Cardinal George had a fitting response at the time “We’re all Jews if you go back far enough”. So 23% believing that is sort of odd in my mind.


5 posted on 10/30/2008 5:02:15 PM PDT by GerardKempf (Let's Get Over This)
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To: PRePublic

God Bless Texas


6 posted on 10/30/2008 5:03:45 PM PDT by babydubya1981 (Homeschooling Moms for McCain/Palin 08)
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To: steve0

I would consider a baptism by Rev. Wright NULL AND VOID.


7 posted on 10/30/2008 5:03:48 PM PDT by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism and OBAMA IS A MARXIST)
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To: PRePublic

God Bless Texas


8 posted on 10/30/2008 5:03:49 PM PDT by babydubya1981 (Homeschooling Moms for McCain/Palin 08)
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To: PRePublic

What’s wrong with the other 77%?


9 posted on 10/30/2008 5:04:40 PM PDT by exist
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To: PRePublic

This shouldn’t be all that shocking to THE “MEDIA”. After all, he didn’t even join a church until his twenties, and the church he did join is certainly not Christ-centered...


10 posted on 10/30/2008 5:05:16 PM PDT by WatchYourself (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: PRePublic

Who cares? Half of America thinks he’s Jesus.


11 posted on 10/30/2008 5:05:56 PM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: PRePublic

I can’t believe 77% of Texans are that gullible. :-)


12 posted on 10/30/2008 5:06:26 PM PDT by Caper29
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To: PRePublic

Oh, he’s not?


13 posted on 10/30/2008 5:06:34 PM PDT by CycloneGOP
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To: PRePublic

And Joe the plumber has something to say to Obama!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68WNXDAgn40


14 posted on 10/30/2008 5:10:21 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: CycloneGOP

When prominent Muslim clerics and leaders overseas say Obama is Muslim, it’s easy enough to come that conclusion too.


15 posted on 10/30/2008 5:12:41 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: PRePublic
The feely factors:


16 posted on 10/30/2008 5:14:16 PM PDT by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: deport

great on a billboard.


17 posted on 10/30/2008 5:15:29 PM PDT by PRePublic
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To: babydubya1981
God Bless Texas Amen!!!
18 posted on 10/30/2008 5:16:41 PM PDT by PRePublic
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To: PRePublic
Maybe it's time to secede.

If at first you don't secede, try, try again. From Texas Secede...

Texas Secession Facts

Q: Doesn’t the Texas Constitution reserve the right of Texas to secede?

A: No such provision is found in the current Texas Constitution[1](adopted in 1876) or the terms of annexation.[2] However, it does state (in Article 1, Section 1) that “Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States...” (note that it does not state “...subject to the President of the United States...” or “...subject to the Congress of the United States...” or “...subject to the rest of the United States...”)

Neither the Texas Constitution, nor the Constitution of the united States, explicitly or implicitly disallows the secession of Texas (or any other “free and independent State”) from the United States. Joining the “Union” was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option (regardless of what any self-appointed academic, media, or government “experts”—including Abraham Lincoln himself—may have ever said).

Both the original (1836) and the current (1876) Texas Constitutions also state that “All political power is inherent in the people ... they have at all times the inalienable right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper.”

Likewise, each of the united States is “united” with the others explicitly on the principle that “governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed” and “whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends [i.e., protecting life, liberty, and property], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government” and “when a long train of abuses and usurpations...evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.” [3]

Q: Didn’t the “Civil War” prove that secession is not an option for any State?

A: No. It only proved that, when allowed to act outside his lawfully limited authority, a U.S. president is capable of unleashing horrendous violence against the lives, liberty, and property of those whom he pretends to serve. The Confederate States (including Texas) withdrew from the Union lawfully, civilly, and peacefully, after enduring several decades of excessive and inequitable federal tariffs (taxes) heavily prejudiced against Southern commerce.[4] Refusing to recognize the Confederate secession, Lincoln called it a “rebellion” and a “threat” to “the government” (without ever explaining exactly how “the government” was “threatened” by a lawful, civil, and peacefull secession) and acted outside the lawfully defined scope of either the office of president or the U.S. government in general, to coerce the South back into subjugation to Northern control.[5]

The South’s rejoining the Union at the point of a bayonet in the late 1860s didn’t prove secession is “not an option” or unlawful. It only affirmed that violent coercion can be used—even by governments (if unrestrained)—to rob men of their very lives, liberty, and property.[6]

It bears repeating that the united States are “united” explicitly on the principle that “governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed” and “whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends [i.e., protecting life, liberty, and property], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government” and “when a long train of abuses and usurpations...evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.” [7]

Q: Is Texas really ripe for a secession movement?

A: Probably not. Texans generally aren’t the rugged, independent, liberty-conscious folks they once were. Like most Americans, they happily acquiesce to the U.S. government’s steady theft of their rights and property via unlawful statutes, programs, and activities.

Unfamiliar with historical or legal details, being largely products of public (i.e., government) “education,” today’s Texans easily adopt the “politically correct” myths that litter the landscape of American popular opinion. Many don’t even know what the word secede means, and believe that the United States is a “democracy” (hint: it’s not)[8].

But public opinion and ignorance won’t stop us from suggesting that secession is still a good idea for people who value their rights and personal liberty more highly than the temporal affluence, comfort, and false security provided by the U.S. welfare/warfare state. That’s why we’re offering SECEDE bumper stickers in the first place. By raising public awareness of even the concept of secession, we hope they might plant seeds that will some day yield a new resolve among Texans for liberty and self-government.

Q: How would Texas—and Texans—benefit from secession?

A: In many ways. Over the past century-and-a-half the United States government has awarded itself ever more power (but not the lawful authority) to meddle with the lives, liberty, and property of the People of Texas (as well as those of the other States).

Sapping Texans’ wealth into a myriad of bureaucratic, socialist schemes both in the U.S. and abroad, the bipartisan government monopoly in Washington persists in expanding the federal debt and budget deficits every year. Texans would indeed gain much by reclaiming control of their State, their property, their liberty, and their very lives, by refusing to participate further in the fraud perpetrated by the Washington politicians and bureaucrats.

By returning Texas to the independent republic she once was, Texans would truly reclaim a treasure for themselves and their progeny.

Q: Are there any organized efforts to promote a Texas secession?

A: Yes. An organization self-described as the Republic of Texas Interim Government asserts, among other things, that the annexation of Texas as a U.S. State was illegal and/or improperly executed, and that the current Texas State government is therefore illegitimate. Their website can be found at http://www.republic-of-texas.net.

Another organization of interest is Texas Constitution 2000, which calls on Texans to ratify a new constitution liberating Texas from the economic and statutory slavery of the U.S. government. Their website is http://www.tcrf.com.

The Independent Nation of Texas website features a FAQ page listing reasons why secession would be good for Texas, as well as links to multiple online resources pertaining to Texas secession, at http://www.anus.com/etc/texas/.

Q: Why exactly are y’all selling this stuff?

A: A social and political trend towards nationalism – nay, national socialism – has become the status quo in much of the US (and much of Texas). We question the wisdom of this trend.

The US founders and the first few generations cared very little for nationalism. They didn’t think of the United States as a nation, but a federation of sovereign States. And it was only in this spirit that Texans would have ever favored trading Texas’ status as an independent republic for ‘statehood’ among the other States.

Nationalism, in one form or another, is at the root of most bureaucratic, expensive, inefficient, and power-hungry big government. It is the chief cause of government growth and unnecessary meddlesome ventures both at home and abroad. Nationalism, in one form or another, spawned almost every war since at least the mid-nineteenth century.

Texas has a rich history of independent character. She is the only US State that was once a sovereign, independent republic, having won her independence from a heavy-handed despotic government (Mexico) that refused to honor its own constitution (sound familiar?).

Okay, it's not going to happen. Too many yankees have invaded. But boy would it be fun!

19 posted on 10/30/2008 5:16:47 PM PDT by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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Maybe it's time to secede.

It's time for northern California to become TEXASized... in ideology.

20 posted on 10/30/2008 5:19:01 PM PDT by PRePublic
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23 Percent Believe Obama Is Muslim

This seems a bit low. A very unscientifice, but nonetheless exhaustive, poll of the 15 houses on my street, 100% believe Obama is Muslim. Guess it depends on where and who you poll.

21 posted on 10/30/2008 5:22:56 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: pacpam

Muslims believe everyone is a Muslim, they just don’t know it yet.


22 posted on 10/30/2008 5:27:12 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Dallas59
And a secret communist too.
23 posted on 10/30/2008 5:28:12 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: PRePublic

And we are...Right!


24 posted on 10/30/2008 5:41:17 PM PDT by BigCinBigD ('When a man believes that any stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang,')
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To: PRePublic

Ya just gotta love TEXAS!


25 posted on 10/30/2008 5:51:27 PM PDT by fuzzybutt
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Okay, it's not going to happen. Too many yankees have invaded. But boy would it be fun!

You are probably right.........unless they decide to come get our guns. There are enough TX natives here that I promise will not give up their guns. And mercy for the people who come to get them.

26 posted on 10/30/2008 5:59:25 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: steve0

Let me pick your brain, let’s take across the US, not Texas, if 100 Americans know he was a muslim, what % will be less inclined to vote for him. I am thinking what if we show the people strong evidence he was a muslim? Would it help tilt the race?


27 posted on 10/30/2008 6:18:20 PM PDT by savvyguy
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catfish1957<------ Proud member of that 23% of Texans

That freudean slip with "my muslim faith" Steffynofolis sealed the deal for me.

28 posted on 10/30/2008 6:57:54 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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They asked people to identify his religion.... ah, when? Now? 40 years ago? Identify the religions he’s had. Once again the question is bogus.


29 posted on 10/30/2008 7:26:11 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Barack Obama, the American Salvador Allende.)
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