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As a conservative, I bridle at some of their suggestions, but if it helps us defeat Lord Obama, I'll go along, for now.
1 posted on 10/31/2008 1:46:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Problem is the GOP under Bush was all about appealing to the squishy moderates. Yeah, that worked well.

60% of the electorate consistently, cycle after cycle, label themselves as conservatives. That should give us pause. People instinctively favor lower taxes, smaller government, less regulation, more freedom, etc.

I think we run in to problems not by being conservative, but by failing to try to communicate to independent voters what we’re really about.


2 posted on 10/31/2008 1:53:38 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Barney Frank is a Fannie bandit.)
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1


3 posted on 10/31/2008 1:54:34 PM PDT by danamco
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http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/three-things-the-obamedia-will-do-to-depress-republican-turnout-and-help-obama/

Three things the Obamedia will do to depress Republican turnout and help Obama

Posted by hillbuzz

Above from a PUMA site that should be read.

Many PUMA’s have been doing some of the great heavy lifting for McCain and is appreciated.


4 posted on 10/31/2008 1:56:24 PM PDT by SoCalPol (McCain / Palin 08 The Only Choice)
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In light of recent political discoveries, we have a new rule. All PUMA threads have to include a picture of the official face of PUMAs- Ivanka Trump.

5 posted on 10/31/2008 1:58:07 PM PDT by mnehring (We Are Joe!)
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As a conservative, I bridle at some of their suggestions,

"Some" of their suggestions?

Personally, I think the saying "If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas", applies here. They maybe doing this out of anger that a man dared to beat Hillary at her own game, but they'll be demanding some compromises. Nothing is free, and personally I'm sick of the last 8 years of compromise that we've had.
6 posted on 10/31/2008 1:59:39 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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“Obama wants to ‘change’ America, I want to fix DC.”

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Although I believe that we haven’t actually tried conservatism, this is the best quote I have heard in forever about this election (or any election).


7 posted on 10/31/2008 2:01:12 PM PDT by rbbeachkid (When is enough enough?)
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“The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”


8 posted on 10/31/2008 2:02:32 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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“To have once been a die-hard Democrat is to understand the left and be able to emphasize (not necessarily agree) with their views.”

I think he means “empathize.”

9 posted on 10/31/2008 2:04:17 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Concerning Larry Sinclair: It is strange when you can be thankful for having a pervert on your side.)
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This guy is half-an-@ss.


11 posted on 10/31/2008 2:07:12 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Concerning Larry Sinclair: It is strange when you can be thankful for having a pervert on your side.)
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Well, fine. But I don’t agree that Democrats today are loyal to the country. Any “moderate” Democrat is quickly drummed out. Without exception.

Also, I don’t agree that The One has to placate his hard left following in the least. When he mush-mouths centrist platitudes, the lefties know he is just foolin’. They know he is their boy and he is just playing the rest for patsies.


13 posted on 10/31/2008 2:11:44 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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Yep.
DEFEAT THE O.
Workout the other details afterward.
Hey, I’m willing to compromise a few things in order to defeat O.


14 posted on 10/31/2008 2:15:51 PM PDT by a real Sheila (Obama lied and my 401K died!)
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As long as we have our Freedoms and Liberties intact, we are innovative Americans.
Say no to a New Constitutional Convention
Say no to a New Bill of Rights
Say no to a New New Deal.


15 posted on 10/31/2008 2:16:59 PM PDT by griswold3
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In WW2 we had to team up with Stalin to win. I think a temporary alliance with the PUMAs is certainly acceptable. At this point, to quote Malcolm X, I think it’s vital to win by any means necessary,


17 posted on 10/31/2008 2:21:16 PM PDT by jeltz25
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I have several Democrat friends who were Hillary supporters and they are voting for McCain/Palin. They do, however hope that Hillary runs again in 2012. I am thankful that they can at least see that Obama hates America and that Hillary does not hate America!


20 posted on 10/31/2008 2:29:50 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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As a conservative, I bridle at some of their suggestions, but if it helps us defeat Lord Obama, I'll go along, for now

Sorta like allying with the Soviets against Hitler....

I think what it really is, though, is the next-to-last step in the formation of a centrist party that fills the vacuum created by the "outward" (left/right) movement of the Democrat and Republican parties.

The Hillary crowd would probably be the leftmost fringe of that party, but they'll be pretty moderate by the standards of todays Democrats. I think the rightmost fringe is probably somewhat rightward of McCain, but not "conservative" according to the current ideology. The vast majority of the party will be made up of "normal folks" who lack strong ideology -- though overall, I think the party ends up being slightly to the right of center.

I think that if Obama wins, the Democrat party will dissolve, the Republican party will crater, and this new party will be running a viable candidate by 2012.

21 posted on 10/31/2008 2:32:00 PM PDT by r9etb
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There are TONS of grass roots democrats working day and night to defeat Obama, if there was this level of grass roots support for Obama by Republicans they would be featured day and night in the media.

When the story is written of this election it will be that democrats abandoned Obama in droves, like I’ve been saying for months.

This is not an isolated phenomenon, after a while the TONS of anecdotal evidence becomes a movement. My mother will not vote for a dem president for the first time since she’s been eligible to vote.


22 posted on 10/31/2008 2:34:24 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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If you believe the ultimate is to be American and tolerant of diverse opinions

I am an American, and I am tolerant of diverse opinions, IF those opinions don't lead directly to the loss of my God given rights or my property. Then I turn intolerant REAL fast. Sorry, I'm just a neanderthal like that - I sort of like my freedom. Too bad I can't be more tolerant.

24 posted on 10/31/2008 3:06:01 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (0bama's past associations need a good "Ayering out".)
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Bump to the top

An Appeal to Grass Roots America Part 1!

YES WE CAN! WE CAN WIN! WE MUST WIN! (part2)


31 posted on 10/31/2008 9:04:49 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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