Posted on 10/31/2008 7:40:48 PM PDT by toughwuss
Johnny was the Republican - and died last year. RIP
“Bonzo Goes to Bitburg” was the song that you’re referring to...”Bonzo” being Reagan, of course. Punks are being ironic when they address each other with “punk” nicknames.
Not sure if there was huge disagreement with the band over Johnny’s politics - they were as close as could be - and I knew them from ‘75 onwards. For some punk “trivia” - I lived in LA when there were maybe 50-70 identifiable “punks” on the scene. I used to draw cadaverous illustrations of “dead kennedys” and showed them at parties to...well, you probably get the picture...I’m so bad, I illustrated a punk magazine called “Vietnam Never Happened” - On the cover was a naked Josie and the Pussycats with (in the foreground) a Jughead from Archie comics, in a lotus posture, ignited by a can of gasoline, a la burning buddhist monks circa 1970. Viva la Nixon!
I think Johnny Ramone commented once about how a lot of new young punks (think Green Day types) are indistinguishable from the hippies that punks are supposed to be rebelling against. In other words, many of today’s punk are totally supporting the big government establishment.
Totally true. I can’t go to our best Punk venue here, it’s owned by an Obama Zombie.
“I lived in LA when there were maybe 50-70 identifiable “punks” on the scene”
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Dead Kennedys....man that band name shocked the crap out of me back then. Very Punk.
So maybe you knew X....let’s see that would be Exene Cervanka, John Doe, Billy Zoom and I can’t remember the drummer...Fred something?
Maybe Black Flag-I think they were LA Punk..maybe The Germs.
Ah my memory.....
Interesting, pretty much primary source, comment concerning the Ramones. I can only go by what Johnny Ramone wrote in later years. I had no idea he was a conservative when I followed the band, from a distance here in St. Louis, in their heyday.
Sure. I’ve partied with X... and the Dead Boys, Plasmatics, The Screamers, Iggy Pop, etc. Most of my old punk friends are middle class Americans now, with kids and mortgages, jobs that are kinda sucky...but we EARN our livings, CARE about our Country & Constitution and our “negative Rights”. We never bought the lie that America is a finished chapter. As far as the Dead Kennedys - I regret affiliating with them - as Jello Biafra is so much a Commie that I wouldn’t spit on his grave today. He even went on the Phil Donahue program in the ‘80’s - and is in the bag for Obama....
Yea most are for sure ,they ain’t real punks but posers.
Green Day is/was(were)/and has always been a bunch of poseurs.
They rank up there with the ‘hair’ rock bands (Poison, Winger, and the rest of that horrible decade.)
So? You're a N00b by MY standards, too! And per JR, I'm a babe in the woods....
I say Welcome Home to anyone who's truly seeing the light!!!
I’d like to thank you. This has gone beyond what you are trying to call me out on.
Be nice or I’ll whack you with my walker.
:)
Well...... shucks.....
There. THAT’S better!
LOL!!!
I’m outta here for now. Carry on, N00b. :) :) :) :) :) :)
I’m a conservative and I too am disgusted by some of the things Bush has done. I am vehemently opposed to the bailout and I do not like how expansive government has become under the Bush administration. I think Iraq will ultimately prove to be successful but they were unrealistic in the beginning about what it would take to “win” this war. Remember, McCain had to convince Bush that a surge was needed and would work. I credit him for keeping this country safe and free from further attacks but he is far from the perfect POTUS.
Not everyone has to agree with Bush 100 percent of the time to get that Obama is bad for this country. This guy is putting his a** and his future on the line by coming out and stating what he truly believes.
I don’t know this record label but it is interesting to see Zeke and the Donnas and John McCain and the Street Dogs in their top friends (no guaranty that any of them are on their small label).
Right now I’m really getting into a 20 year old Treat Her Right blooze rock album. But don’t let me stop you from listening to yours.
As well rounded as Sub-Pop was in artists recorded, Sympathy For The Record Industry was 10 times as good.
Linda Ramone is going for Mac.
My take on reading this is that the writer is not a self-identified Republican, or even a conservative, yet. What some here are calling his ‘qualifier to stay hip’ is merely his honest views, whether you agree with him and his reasoning or not. The guy has probably voted for Democrats or leftist third-party candidates his whole life.
Lay off his ‘qualifier’ and see the guy for what he appears to be - someone whose worldview and take on American politics are starting to mature and take form as conservative. Not long ago, this is how I started. I kept examining what I saw in the real world and compared it to what i heard and said in the liberal echo chamber of the average early 20’s guy in blue-state ville. Like this guy, my music and social life didn’t expose me to much conservative thought. Fugazi rocks, but they’re slightly to the left the Khmer Rouge.
I issued these qualifiers often early on. I’m still on your side guys, but... (insert rational conservative observation of the world here.) After continuously doing this, one day it simply dawned on me that I was a conservative/libertarian and that my suspicion of the government and media was shared by other conservatives, not by my liberal friends.
This election will be decided by people like this writer. They can issue whatever qualifiers they want. They can call themselves whatever they want. They don’t have to agree with everything and everyone on Free Republic. They just have to decide that Marxism is a step too far for them, and that they’d rather have McCain than Obama as president. Cut the guy some slack.
We should hang out.
Black Flag was based in L.A. Henry Rollins, who went from fan to lead singer, was a good D.C. boy like me. The Dead Kennedys, IMO, made the greatest anti-liberal hypocrisy song ever in ‘Holiday In Cambodia.’ Brilliant. A lot of these bands had a tilt that wasn’t conservative but was more libertarian/anarchist.
Agent Orange from CA was always a favorite, too.
Well said.
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