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Pennsylvania, what happened? Flame Away

Posted on 11/04/2008 11:11:57 PM PST by HamiltonJay

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To: HamiltonJay

Shutting down coal resonated in Pittsburg, did not resonate in Philly?


41 posted on 11/04/2008 11:40:30 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Impy
It’s a state that leans rat, period.

Actually, in many counties, PA votes Conservative, unfortunately those counties are sparcely populated.

42 posted on 11/04/2008 11:40:43 PM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: PhiKapMom
PhiKap, did Tom Cole win? I couldn't even listen to KTOK. It was just too depressing!
43 posted on 11/04/2008 11:45:20 PM PST by singfreedom
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To: FrdmLvr

Murtha won. He’s an incumbent. Incumbents don’t lose simply because of a few dumb statements.


44 posted on 11/04/2008 11:47:45 PM PST by ari-freedom (Paint your finger purple on Tuesday!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Why are we allowing NH and Iowa to pick our candidates for the Republican Party when BOTH states went to the Dems.

Hell, I am an Iowan and yet I can't figure out why the GOP lets this state of losers still get the first caucus! The state's Republican apparatus has ossified to the point of debility, so let 'em throw as big a fit as they want... give the first one to GA or TX.

45 posted on 11/04/2008 11:50:23 PM PST by niteowl77 (The niteowl77s: parents who support those who support their soldier.)
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To: PhiKapMom
PhiKap, did Tom Cole win? I couldn't even listen to KTOK. It was just too depressing!
46 posted on 11/04/2008 11:52:32 PM PST by singfreedom
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To: YdontUleaveLibs

At least you live in a red state. I live in Florida which I thought was a red state but today’s results proved me terribly wrong.


47 posted on 11/05/2008 12:00:28 AM PST by princeofdarkness (Ronald Reagan- "Trust But Verify" MSM- "Report, Lie, Then Crucify")
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To: singfreedom

Tom Cole won. We returned 4/5 Republicans to the House — same as before.

Republicans had a great night in OK.


48 posted on 11/05/2008 12:01:06 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: niteowl77

I as disgusted during the primary season when Iowa kept getting mad when candidates didn’t come in the state all the time and how they were going to punish them and ditto NH and then MI.

I am fed up and think 55 million other Republicans should be too that we allow blue states to pick our nominee.

Wonder how we go about changing it? I am willing to start a petition or whatever it takes. We have 3 years to get it changed.


49 posted on 11/05/2008 12:04:09 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: PhiKapMom
Wonderful! Now, if we can just get rid of Porky Boren’s boy, we'll have it licked. Kinda nice being in one of the few states that paid attention, isn't it? Did you do any campaign work this time?
50 posted on 11/05/2008 12:05:04 AM PST by singfreedom
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To: 4rcane
OK palin and mccain both said they had zero tolerance for voter fraud. where are they tonight? where is the damn fight? how close were the states needed? do we have a final count? ive been emailing a friend and neither of us are seeing any information on FR about how close (or not) the race was.
51 posted on 11/05/2008 12:05:33 AM PST by CanadianMusherinMI (drill baby drill/mine baby mine!)
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To: PhiKapMom

Really, to hell with IA and NH and Mediascum and RINOs and “open” primaries etc. How do we reclaim the nomination process so that the Mediascum do not determine who we are allowed to nominate? We really have TWO years to reform the system for choosing R. party nominees since by the time it gets close to 2012 it will be too late for the coming cycle.


52 posted on 11/05/2008 12:07:27 AM PST by Enchante (The real "bitter clingers" are on the LEFT -- ranting Obamabots clinging to delusions!!)
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To: PhiKapMom
If you find out how to do it, PhiKap, let me know. Maybe I can help.
53 posted on 11/05/2008 12:10:31 AM PST by singfreedom
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To: HamiltonJay
You know, I think McCain was getting a bit of traction in PA, but it was simply too late by the time his campaign made a concerted effort to compete there.

I think to some extent we saw two important things:

--The utter backfire of "Operation Chaos," which merely ended up pumping more money and resources into what eventually became Obama's "ground game" machine, while also giving him loads of media attention, and

--The failure of the McCain campaign to capitalize on the months and months and months between his capture of the nomination and the convention season. Where WAS the McCain campaign? What was it building all that time, if anything, on the ground?

Perhaps McCain would have lost in any case but... like this?

His campaign managers have a lot to answer for tomorrow.

54 posted on 11/05/2008 12:12:28 AM PST by seacapn
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To: Dustbunny

Well yes.

Philly suburbs trending liberal screws the whole state.


55 posted on 11/05/2008 12:13:56 AM PST by Impy (Welcome to the USSA)
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To: PhiKapMom
Wonder how we go about changing it? I am willing to start a petition or whatever it takes. We have 3 years to get it changed.

I think that the caucus order should be based on performance in the last Presidential election (or a similar setup). No state gets it "just because it has always been that way," and it rewards the organizations with moxie. And no crossover voting. Ever.

That this frigging state went for Obama (and Huckabee) tells anyone how worthless it is to the Republicans.

56 posted on 11/05/2008 12:20:20 AM PST by niteowl77 (The niteowl77s: parents who support those who support their soldier.)
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To: Enchante; singfreedom

I am with you guys! I want open primaries gone, I want Iowa, NH, and Michigan sent to the back of the pack, and want conservative states in the front that are reliable red states not ones that we have to guess are going red.

We need to start now to get it reformed. This is ludicrous for blue states and the media to pick our candidates. I detest open primaries with a passion. I want closed Republican primaries like we have in Oklahoma which BTW was ruled constitutional.

Don’t think that is too much to ask. RNC has way too much control for being such an inept organization. That place needs a thorough housecleaning.


57 posted on 11/05/2008 12:20:52 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: niteowl77

Exactly! Way too much time was spent by our candidates in Iowa and NH — both blue states.

States should be rewarded for staying red.


58 posted on 11/05/2008 12:26:28 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: singfreedom

I did a lot of work for McCain and was his coordinator in this part of the state. Like so many others I didn’t start out supporting McCain but went over after the FL primary when I was asked.

Also worked with LetsGetThisRight.com that we put together a few months ago to support Congressoinal candidates.

At least Oklahoma went in large numbers for McCain. We must be doing something right in our State.


59 posted on 11/05/2008 12:30:49 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: PhiKapMom

To anyone who knows of a good way to start the ball rolling, just keep in mind that the Iowa Republican apparatus is quite creaky these days, and they would have no choice but to back down. It ain’t my mother’s GOP... heck it isn’t even mine.


60 posted on 11/05/2008 12:32:58 AM PST by niteowl77 (The niteowl77s: parents who support those who support their soldier.)
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