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To: mikelets456

First the good news: This is an amendment to the state Constitution. That means that state judges and the state supreme court CAN’T overturn it. CA may delay implementing it through sneaky methods, and may try to work around it. But they can’t overturn it once the actual ballot measure passes and is certified into law.

Now the bad news: The support for this measure was WAY down (almost 10%) over the last time the measure (not a constitutional amendment that time) passed. Support for this is eroding and it is likely that some time in the future, perhaps 20 years or so, this will be reversed by a similar method.

More bad news: Prop 4. CA still CAN NOT pass a very limited and controlled parental notification law for abortion. Your kid can’t go on a field trip without your consent, but she can get a major medical procedure without not only your consent, but even your KNOWLEDGE!

This state used to be a fabulous western land of opportunity and at least reasonable politics. But every year things devolve further. We’re no Massachusetts, NY, IL, or PA yet in terms of decay and inane leadership. But we’re very very close. This is not the same wonderful state of even 10 years ago. Heartbreaking.

And it has almost nothing to do with Obama’s win here. It’s all about the “vote me some free stuff” mentality that is taking over and the absolute rejection of even modest social conservatism. You have a better chance here of passing a measure protecting a chicken egg than a baby in-utero. We passed a measure controlling how farm animals are kept. But you can’t protect even an unborn child — even if you allow them to think of the unborn as “just” a clump of growing cells, I can’t believe one would think this less valuable than a chicken. Un-be-lievable.


21 posted on 11/05/2008 8:19:53 AM PST by ER_in_OC,CA
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To: ER_in_OC,CA

Yes, I hear you and it’s true. But when “traditionalists”, Christians, Conservatives, etc band together ANYTHING is possible. I believe VERY soon there will be an alarming “wake up” call to the people of the United States. I am usually a pessimistic or realistic person, but I believe this. Why? Because I feel things will get SO BAD that there will be no choice but to “turn to God” and go back to what works...Free enterprise or Capitalism!!! Man oh man, our forefathers died for our freedoms of speech, faith and much more. I for one, will not let that go without a “fight”!


24 posted on 11/05/2008 8:31:47 AM PST by mikelets456
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