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The sorting out process has begun. Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs is advocating the social fundamentalists like Sarah Palin or Bobby Jindal need to be thrown underneath the bus.

I think not.

Charles Johnson seems to be conveniently forgetting the Judeo-Christian principles that founded this country and made it to be the country it is today where anyone can become their own squawk box.

1 posted on 11/05/2008 2:33:07 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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bttt


2 posted on 11/05/2008 2:36:09 PM PST by aberaussie
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Good to know where the flakes at LGF stand. Good riddance.


3 posted on 11/05/2008 2:36:23 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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Democrats have become more conservative on economics Nope, elected Republicans became compassionate. This is a media invention that many seem to take for the truth.
4 posted on 11/05/2008 2:38:43 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (I'm proud of Sarah, the only conservative in this race!)
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I’m OK with social conservatives being a solid core of the GOP as long as they are firm believers in limited government as well. No more Mike (”I love God and gubmint cheese, too”) Huckabee types.


5 posted on 11/05/2008 2:38:53 PM PST by Notary Sojac
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Social conservativism isn’t the problem. The problem is that the Republicans are tied to Wall St. and big business and a lot of Americans have problems with CEOs destroying companies and walking away with millions.


7 posted on 11/05/2008 2:39:43 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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Since 1988, Democrats have become more conservative on economics...

I always enjoyed Sliders, but never dreamed I'd get in an episode. Looks like I did because the RATS on my world are talking about redistributing wealth by giving tax credits to people who don't pay taxes, mandating a new retirement plan through an additional 5% payroll tax and destroying 401(k)'s. I'd better check on what else is different on this world since 1988. Maybe the Amiga is the dominant computer as it should have been on mine.

8 posted on 11/05/2008 2:39:47 PM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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HOGWASH!! So MONEY is the only thing that counts in this country???? Then let it fall in the ocean because it wasn’t founded and graced by GOD to be MONEY BASED.


9 posted on 11/05/2008 2:40:22 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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"Should the GOP Double Down on Social Conservatism?"

No. The GOP should lead the nation by presenting a clear message of security, private property, and personal responsibility.


10 posted on 11/05/2008 2:41:50 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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“As much as anything else, this election was a referendum on the social conservative agenda”

Sure it was, which is why abortion, gay marriage etc. got almost no attention in the election. One question on abortion tied to judges inthe debates and one question regarding gay marriage in the VP debate.

by the way gay marriage failed in three large states.


11 posted on 11/05/2008 2:42:25 PM PST by jbwbubba
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No I think we should double-down on being spineless, Country-Club, DC cocktail creates of Washington DC. WHO IS WITH ME!?!? Let’s all get invited on Rachel Maddow and trash conservatism woohoo!


12 posted on 11/05/2008 2:42:30 PM PST by exist
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In my opinion, at the pith of political conservatism is social conservatism. If the "new" Republicans want to throw the social conservatives off the bus, then it's a bus I don't want to be on anyway.
13 posted on 11/05/2008 2:42:55 PM PST by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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Well wasnt the reasoning behind McCain being the best the Republicans could offer, because he was Maverick and didnt toe the conservative line? Look how that turned out.


14 posted on 11/05/2008 2:44:29 PM PST by 03A3
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“Those days are long gone. Since 1988, Democrats have become more conservative on economics – and Republicans have become more conservative on social issues. “

That is quite simply, wrong.

Both parties are in fact, more liberal on economics than they were in 1988 The Dems have moved to outright anti-capitialism, high taxation, and redistribution of the wealth. Republicans have moved away from a free market approach to a managed economic approach.

The Republican party has not changed on social issues. Hollywood/MSM has moved to the left and it seems as though the Republicans have moved to the right (would a TV show titled “Sex in the City” been even possible in 1984? Was gay marriage even thought of in 1984?)


15 posted on 11/05/2008 2:44:34 PM PST by Brookhaven (.)
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The GOP needs to do a “Day in the Life” film of an average American to illustrate the burden that government places on people.


19 posted on 11/05/2008 2:46:24 PM PST by Crawdad
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No. The only thing that needs to be done is to stop letting the Left frame the debate on social values.

Take the offensive, and never stop pointing out that Secular Leftism is a religion too. Never let them forget that it isn't a battle between religious people and non-religious people; it is a battle between two religions.
21 posted on 11/05/2008 2:47:25 PM PST by horse_doc
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Progressives have taken over the schools,colleges and media and government jobs. The rest of the country will catch hell. Watch.


22 posted on 11/05/2008 2:47:51 PM PST by gunnedah
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this election was a referendum on the social conservative agenda, and the social conservatives did not win.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!! Charles Johnson is on crack if he genuinely believes anything even remotely along those lines!

"Moderate" Republicans were given carte blanche opportunity to demonstrate, once and for all, that they knew how to win at the national level, this year.

They got exactly the candidate they wanted. They got exactly the party platform they wanted. The campaign was run exactly the way they wanted it run.

How'd that end up working out, again...?

24 posted on 11/05/2008 2:49:14 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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Frum is a RINO. He thinks we’ve become more conservative on social issues? I don’t think so. It’s just that killing babies is not something to negotiate.


25 posted on 11/05/2008 2:49:45 PM PST by loydho88
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No way on EARTH that conservatives can win without social conservatives. And religion is not incompatible with being in college, or at least it should not be. I believe Newman Clubs and other organizations are doing pretty well in many places. Not, certainly, among leftists, but among Young Republicans.

I’d be sorry to lose Little Green Footballs. They have often been useful, and do a lot of good stuff.

As for Huckabee, he is not conservative at all. He’s a snakeoil salesman. I think Evangelicals would have figured that out, eventually, but they tended to take him at his word when he appeared on the national scene.

If fiscal conservatives, constitutional conservatives, and social conservatives can’t work together, then forget it. The conservative movement will be dead. That’s why liberals and the MSM always try to drive wedges between them. Conservatives should not be helping them do that.


26 posted on 11/05/2008 2:50:04 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Calling Jindal a fundamentalist is about as wrong-headed as one would expect for a country-club Republican to get.


29 posted on 11/05/2008 2:50:53 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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