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To: unspun

America has called conservatism into question during the last two elections. Palin grabbed the base,but the election was lost in the middle. Obama stayed on message and McCain changed the message daily.


6 posted on 11/05/2008 11:59:47 PM PST by 101st
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To: 101st

“McCain changed the message daily.”

But he kept coming back to that $30 Million planetarium projector!!!


10 posted on 11/06/2008 12:06:46 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: 101st

GOP stayed home relatively speaking

those that didn’t go turncoat


18 posted on 11/06/2008 12:20:28 AM PST by wardaddy (I'm looking for a new Danelaw to move my family to...)
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To: 101st
Conservatism has been hidden, obscured, and maligned for many years. The mainstream media has always called conservatism into question. They successfully labeled Goldwater as a radical, risky, warmonger, and LBJ won in a landslide.

After Carter's totally inept term, Americans were looking for change, and Reagan was able to articulate in very simple terms conservative principles that they agreed with. The press was totally beside itself, because Americans ignored all their propaganda and elected him anyway.

Reagan reminded us that we are always just one generation away from tyranny and loss of freedom. We must continue to fight the good fight.

Most Americans get their news from TV. It is tough to get through that filter unless you are a very good communicator.

I do not believe that the election was lost in the middle. It was lost in failure to articulate conservative principles, failure to hang the financial mess on the Dems where it belonged, and an underfunded poorly run campaign coupled with total media bias from Pravda USA.

Obama co-opted many issues. He did not run on a liberal platform. He only slipped up and showed his true nature a few times-Joe the plumber for example. He just said things that everyone could agree on, promised change that would solve all problems and never told anyone how.

21 posted on 11/06/2008 12:35:09 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: 101st; greeneyes
America has called conservatism into question during the last two elections.

Big Government anything, even conservatism, is questionable, but small and limited government, pro-Constitution conservatism is a winner.

28 posted on 11/06/2008 1:54:38 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" --Patrick Henry)
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To: 101st; unspun; All
America has called conservatism into question during the last two elections. Palin grabbed the base,but the election was lost in the middle. Obama stayed on message and McCain changed the message daily.

Now, The thing is that O was staying in the middle with the politics, some of my friends who voted O (and they are white and Conservative) did because of a few reasons:

1)McCain didn't have a conservative idea in his head except for earmarks -- but he didn't talk about what earmarks until this year. He needed to be out there telling us why it is wrong.

2)The GOP is not united! It seems that the southern GOP do not care about us in the north, yes we do have different ideas on COSERVATIVISM, but until we can embrace each others, we won't win.

3)The bailout bill - McCain lumped all business owners together, he should have named names, but he didn't. He lumped everyone together.

4)He ignored (except for New Hampshire), most of New England. I know why (see #2), but he should have been talking -- 4 countries in Maine that went for W in 2004, went to O. We needed them up here to promote the GOP. Yes New England doesn't have any GOP members, so the GOP better get their act togeher and see what they can do.

5)He ran a pisss poor campaign. It seems that he didn't want it.

40 posted on 11/06/2008 7:21:47 AM PST by MaineConservative (Obama - a new word for Anti-American)
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