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What's Happening In Minnesota?
Powerline ^ | November 7, 2008 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 11/07/2008 2:47:02 PM PST by Caleb1411

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To: Caleb1411

What is the republican party doing to assist this seat holder against this obvious election theft? Nothing? Seems typical of this gutless party. How the hell is it that every mistake and new found vote aides franken’s total, but not a single vote for Coleman? I mean WTF, what a ****ing farce. Welcome to the end of the United States.


21 posted on 11/07/2008 3:14:28 PM PST by chris37
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To: astyanax

There is truly something smelly about the explanation given by election official in Mountain Iron.

I hope the Coleman campaign (along with the state GOP) raises some holy hell about this.


22 posted on 11/07/2008 3:15:10 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: Caleb1411
St. Louis County responded by providing a tape that includes the newly-added 100 votes, and is dated November 2--the Sunday before the election. St. Louis County reportedly denies being able to produce the genuine tape from election night, even though Minnesota law, as I understand it, requires that tape to be signed by the election judges and publicly displayed.

I was a poll watcher, and we have in Alabama what I assume are the same machines (or very similar).

1) The machines are plugged in 30 minutes to one hour before the polls open.

2) The ballot container is opened and verified to be empty.

3) The ballot counter on front of the machine is verified to read zero.

4) A tape (similar to a cash register tape) is run which shows all vote counts for all seats and all other issues to be zero.

5) The tape is checked and verified. This tape is not to be torn or detached from the machine until the final tabulation at the end of the day.

6) The voting occurs during the day.

7) Voting is closed.

8) The precinct inspector locks the machine and pushes a button which runs the final vote tabulation at the end of the day. It is printed on the same tape that was used to record the zero count earlier in the day before the polls opened. In other words, the beginning zero count, all overvotes and undervotes during the day, as well as the final tally are all shown on the same UNBROKEN tape. This tape is selaed in an envelope and becomes the official record.

9) This official record is also reported in the cartridge - which I assume is a non-volatile memory similar to a flash memory card.

10) Other tapes showing the results are printed out and sent to various officials and posted on the door of the polling place. Our precinct ran a total of 5 additional tapes.

It should be easy for lawyers - if they know the system - to create and trace a good paper trail. For example, it the zero portion of the tape is not attached to the final tally, something is rotten.

This assumes the GOP lawyers are not bullied or steamrolled.

23 posted on 11/07/2008 3:16:37 PM PST by WayneM (Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: Caleb1411
There's a heck of a lot of cheating going on. That's what's going on.

Democrats have a plan on how to cheat. First, they cheated by illegal votes. They didn't have enough so now they have to ask for recounts until they can destroy some more Coleman votes and manufacture Freaken votes.

They know what they're doing and they ALWAYS win the close ones. Note they will be 100% by the time this is done.

A RAT lawyer even tells how they do it. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS289US289&q=How+Democrats+steal+elections

24 posted on 11/07/2008 3:17:54 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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Republicans need to stop whining and just do what the left wants them to do.

After all, nothing gets republicans to the polls any more. The voter turnout suggests a lot of republicans stayed home and allowed boy wonder to take the helm.

I wonder at what point do conswrvatives and republicans finally get angry and in the faces of leftist’s?

Let’s see whay is going on:

Kindergarden children are being taught HOW to make the choice to become homosexual.

No big deal, no protests. What hear are those who say things like, “we don’t do protests”. Okay I hear you, but they are turning you into slaves, using your tax dollars to fund ACORN and other anti-conservative BS.


25 posted on 11/07/2008 3:21:07 PM PST by stockpirate (The RNC needs to purge all RINO's.. Join the BORG - Barack Obama Resistance Group)
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To: YOUGOTIT

Political theory suggests that it is acceptable to reject the legitimacy to rule of any party or other body that cheats on elections.


26 posted on 11/07/2008 3:22:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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If Franken steals it, it will almost be worth it to see the IDIOT he makes of himself

I've thought that at least we would have one senator that at least admits he is a comedian.;o)

27 posted on 11/07/2008 3:24:50 PM PST by Abe XVI
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To: Caleb1411

Can Coleman challenge this? Since it is obvious that they are scrounging for votes for Franken, that should be grounds for an investigation. It might be different if both candidates “found” votes but this is blatent!


28 posted on 11/07/2008 3:27:23 PM PST by Kenny
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To: WayneM
A tape (similar to a cash register tape) is run which shows all vote counts for all seats and all other issues to be zero.

Unfortunately, if Minnesota is using the Accuvote machines, due to the idiocy of some software engineers who developed the firmware in those machines, it is possible for the tape to show zero counts when the actual counts are non-zero. And its possible for the printout on the tape to not accurately reflect the ballot count at the end of the election either.

The memory cards need to be very carefully examined - and until then preserved under seal as evidence.

29 posted on 11/07/2008 3:27:49 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Bellflower
What are we going to do about the massive cheating in this country?

BUMP!

30 posted on 11/07/2008 3:29:42 PM PST by fanfan (www.Digg.com)
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To: freeandfreezing

In Alabama we use a machne made by Eagle (at least thats the logo on the machine).

But ultimately the protection is in the fact that the votes are marked with a black felt tip pen on a paper ballot. The machine is really only a scanner to simplity the counting process.


31 posted on 11/07/2008 3:31:00 PM PST by WayneM (Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: Caleb1411

This “error” is EASILY fixed.

TAke three optical scanner machines. CHeck that the dates are set correctly and the machine is working properly.

Run all the ballots through each machine. Each machine should read identical vote totals.


32 posted on 11/07/2008 3:35:03 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Caleb1411

Other than Florida 2000 I do not remember a recount that didn’t eventually result in enough democrap votes being massaged to the surface. Sometimes it takes a while, but it happens.


33 posted on 11/07/2008 3:35:35 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: Bellflower
What are we going to do about the massive cheating in this country?

Contract out our elections to third world countries. Their elections are more honest then ours.

34 posted on 11/07/2008 3:36:01 PM PST by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: WayneM

Wayne,

Using the ballots we do in Alabama, “errors” are almost nonexistent. If there is any problem, you can re-run all the ballots.

I wish every precinct in America had to use the optical scanners like we have. Just about as close to foolproof as you can get.


35 posted on 11/07/2008 3:39:23 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bellflower
What are we going to do about the massive cheating in this country?

It would be some element of government that does anything, right? Do you trust your government?

I thought not.

36 posted on 11/07/2008 3:39:45 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: freeandfreezing

With only about 1000 votes cast they ought to be able to review the voting record to make sure everyone who voted is at least alive.


37 posted on 11/07/2008 3:49:19 PM PST by revtown
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To: Caleb1411

What’s really sad is that part of me wants to see him win so Harry Reid is stuck with him for 6 years. I thought Pennsylvania was bad, you guys in Minnesota the the super strength Kool-Aid


38 posted on 11/07/2008 3:53:09 PM PST by Billy Bud (Conservative Leadership - Sarah Has It)
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What’s really sad is that part of me wants to see him win so Harry Reid is stuck with him for 6 years. I thought Pennsylvania was bad, you guys in Minnesota the the super strength Kool-Aid


39 posted on 11/07/2008 3:53:19 PM PST by Billy Bud (Conservative Leadership - Sarah Has It)
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To: MplsSteve

And the incredibly lame excuse of “something wrong with the time stamp clock” on the current tape when it was first noticed in late October. Was it reported then?
The whole thing reeks.


40 posted on 11/07/2008 3:55:13 PM PST by astyanax (If you need to wear a mask while speaking your mind, it is probably best you remain silent...)
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