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Prop 8 Protests Against Mormons, Other Churches Gets Ugly (Gay Activists At A Mass Call Jesus A Homo
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| 11/12/2008
| Joe Murray
Posted on 11/14/2008 7:25:12 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: SJackson
If they can force one part of the government to do it they can use the government to force all churches to perform marriages. It won't end.
81
posted on
11/14/2008 8:26:16 AM PST
by
teacherbarbie
(I would go into politics, but I like to keep my youthful looks.)
To: Philly Nomad
Did they attack churches before Prop 8?*******************
Yes, they did. I recall such attacks beginning back in the 1980's.
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posted on
11/14/2008 8:27:22 AM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: Nathan Zachary
Christ never said that there would be no other scriptures.
To: Nathan Zachary
In fact, Jesus was with God when God created the universe.
Of course. You had better quit. You are over your head on this topic.
And any way, it is time for working together in respect and tolerance. A bigger problem is facing us, in case you hadn’t noticed.
To: teacherbarbie
“they can use the government to force all churches to perform marriages.”
You are exactly right. They have already put language in the International Criminal Court statute that could be used to imprison church people who won’t perform same-sex marriages.
To: SJackson
Any ‘Church” that would marry two individuals of the same sex is not a Church by my definition as this type of relationship is cleary prohibited by scripture.
I simply meant to suggest that we as Christians enjoy many freedoms because we live in a country where a majority should not be able to impose on a minority. I realize this is not actually the case but should be. Gun owners could end up on the recieving end of this which would also result in violence. I think we should consider this issue carefully.
For what it is worth, I am married in the Christian sense.
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posted on
11/14/2008 8:29:00 AM PST
by
Kinzua
(No Bailout -- time to set things right)
To: Nathan Zachary
‘”The Book of Mormon does not change everything the Gospel says. It is a second witness for Christ”
Not according to Christ. He’s pretty adamant about that.’
I missed the interview, was it Greta Van Susteren that got him to comment on that?
To: teacherbarbie
Some Churchs and a few liberal Jewish congregations do it now. Usually they call them something like a commitment ceremony or blessing, but there's no reason a Church couldn't call it a marriage. Whether it's valid within the Church is their business. However none of these marriages/ceremonies pass civil muster. That's what they're after. This is simply a form of intimidation, and as I noted earlier I don't see how is not the desruption of a religious service, which is illegal in most states. Different reason, but
here's a thread on a similar protest which has gone on over five years. Worshippers may have to get used to running a gauntlet on Sunday, though I suspect the number of people they'll be offending with this tactic is such that it won't last very long.
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posted on
11/14/2008 8:33:49 AM PST
by
SJackson
(http://www.jewish-history.com/emporium/)
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To: Kinzua
Any Church that would marry two individuals of the same sex is not a Church by my definition as this type of relationship is cleary prohibited by scripture. But some do, see post 88. Which is their business.
I simply meant to suggest that we as Christians enjoy many freedoms because we live in a country where a majority should not be able to impose on a minority. I realize this is not actually the case but should be. Gun owners could end up on the recieving end of this which would also result in violence. I think we should consider this issue carefully.
There is a 2nd amendment which establishes the rights of gunowners. There is no identifiable Constitutional right of gay marriage. And if a court invents one, it's indistinguishable from the right to marry ones relatives, or have multiple spouses. Nor is their any natural right to be relied on, in fact that line of thought would argue against gay marriage, though perhaps in favor of allowing polygamy.
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posted on
11/14/2008 8:39:03 AM PST
by
SJackson
(http://www.jewish-history.com/emporium/)
To: MarkT
Back in the late 60s, the homosexulal refrain was just leave us alone, all we want to do is live our lives. Now, as predicted, it is do it or else.Brings to mind the story about the fisherman's wife....he found the magic fish that granted wishes, and she kept demanding more and more...its a fairy tale come to life.
To: Nathan Zachary
You are absolutely correct. Jesus was with God when God created the universe. The with part conotates two separate beings.
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posted on
11/14/2008 8:40:48 AM PST
by
Reno232
To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Smearing church-going folk and causing major traffic tie-ups in major cities is not a good way to win people over to your cause.
To: Philly Nomad
Take your ignorance back to DU where it belongs.
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posted on
11/14/2008 8:46:32 AM PST
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: Nathan Zachary
Please don’t turn this into a Mormon-bashing theology thread. The attacks against them by the prop 8 people are wrong, and that’s the point of this thread. This is a time, it seems to me, that we need to stand in solidarity.
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