Posted on 11/14/2008 12:29:37 PM PST by atlbelle44
https://services.saccourt.com/indexsearchnew/CVFLPRDetail.aspx?Details=CV|2008-80000096|keyes|01/01/2008|12/31/2008|FilingDate|Asc|
http://www.soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf
Anybody know what this case is about, other than the fact that Obama and Biden are named as respondents?
why?
Anybody know what this case is about, other than the fact that Obama and Biden are named as respondents?
Please, just a short sentence as to what this is about.
Maybe someone with a high profile like AK will get something moving on this. Where there’s smoke there’s fire . . .
Oops. Sorry for the double post.
“No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the
adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;”
63. Senator Barack H. Obama is a candidate for the Office of the President of the United
States. However, to assume such office, Senator Obama must meet the qualifications specified for the
Office of the President of the United States, which includes that he must be a “natural born” citizen.
Senator Obama has failed to demonstrate that he is a “natural born” citizen. There are other legal
challenges before various state and federal courts regarding aspects of lost or dual citizenship concerning
Senator Obama. Those challenges, in and of themselves, demonstrate Petitioners argument that
reasonable doubt exists as to the eligibility of the Democratic Partys nominee for President.
I read into the link posted. It concerns Obama’s birth/citizenship status.
I read somewhere that Wiley S. Drake was going to file over the BC, just thought “I’ll believe it when I see it”... not sure if this is related to that in any way.
I know nothing about it, but it sounds like a similar suit to the one that has been promoted to the Supreme Court in which a Sec. of State hasn’t vetting the presidential nominee.
If Obama and McCain were found to not be “natural born,” as neither were born on US soil, the Libetarian candiate, Barr, could be said to be the rightful president. Of course, Keyes was behind Barr on the overall vote tally, but at least he would be someone the Electoral College would be able to debate over, or the Congress could debate over, if not the Congress in each state, prior to naming its choice for President.
Sounds like another suit for failure to certify Obama’s eligibility to me.
“Senator Barack H. Obama is a candidate for the Office of the President of the United
States. However, to assume such office, Senator Obama must meet the qualifications specified for the
Office of the President of the United States, which includes that he must be a “natural born” citizen.
Senator Obama has failed to demonstrate that he is a “natural born” citizen. There are other legal
challenges before various state and federal courts regarding aspects of lost or dual citizenship concerning
Senator Obama. Those challenges, in and of themselves, demonstrate Petitioners argument that
reasonable doubt exists as to the eligibility of the Democratic Partys nominee for President.”
From the suit filed yesterday.....
Looks like a birth certificate case.
But as a candidate, Keyes may have the “standing’ that Berg lacked.
Drake is one of the petitioners.
At least Mr. Keyes is Black, so they can’t claim racism...right?
He’s an AMBASSADOR DR, and turning into a kook.
Exactly.
I’ve voted for him in Republican primaries and in the general election, at one time.
He’s a great man.
I have found it odd that Obama refuses to kill this thing. It would seem to me that this would be easy to sweep away.
I’ll have complete news about this case shortly, and will post it here.
Yep. He’s turned himself into a nutcase oddity footnote.
It’s a petition for a writ of mandate:
http://www.soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf
Go Alan! I’ll ping the admin. to put this on breaking news.
ping
The only way Barr could get in is if he received an electoral vote and no other qualified candidate received an electoral vote. If Obama were disqualified between now and the time the Electors vote, then the Democrat electors would vote for Hillary or Biden (most likely the party leaders would pick a replacement nominee so all their electors could vote for him/her and avoid a nasty House fight).
Month ago I read where Keyes question McCain’s eligibility to run. Maybe this is it. I don’t remember Obama & Biden’s name in that article.
Would either of you elucidate the reasons why you think this makes him “nutty”? He has the standing needed to pursue this, unlike everyone else.
He’s a solid Christian man with great conservative principles. Do you believe such people are crazy?
But...but...I thought this was just an issue from right wing online fanatics, and that Berg, who is obviously a total flake and harboring sour grapes b/c of hillary, is the only one who considers this is an issue. NOTHING TO SEE HERE.../sarc
Baloney.
He’s simply asking that the Constitution be followed. You know, that piece of paper practically our entire political establishment now wants to pretend doesn’t exist?
The man sitting in the Oval Office issuing orders to our military, executive orders, and signing and vetoing bills had better be constitutionally qualified to be there.
I would expect those electorates could not vote, and instead, the electorate of the actual remaining majority (Libertarian) would be sent to the EC conference.
Democrats are only going because their candidate was assumed to be legitimately elected by their people. They don’t go if he wasn’t.
No, but Alan Keyes being a kook has nothing to do with that.
Would Keyes has standing since he was defeated by Obama in his Senate race? Interesting, lets hope the supreme court hears he case.
Compared to the amount of information that Obama wants from all White House applicants, he should pony up already...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2131592/posts?page=1Could You Pass Obama’s Background Check?
The Indy Channel ^ | 11/13/08
Applicants for President-elect Barack Obama’s Cabinet get ready to chronicle your life story.
Those interested in joining Obama’s administration have to pass an extensive background test.
The questionnaire, the New York Times reported, includes 63 requests for personal and professional records, some covering applicants spouses and grown children as well, that are forcing job-seekers to rummage from basements to attics, in shoe boxes, diaries and computer archives to document both their achievements and missteps, the Times said.
Obama wants applicants to list all aliases or handles you have used to communicate on the Internet, and asks people to include any e-mail that might embarrass the president-elect, along with any blog posts and links to their Facebook.com pages.
Hoping to weed out anyone with ties to companies at the center of the $700 billion bailout, question 18 of the Obama application asks whether you, your spouse or any member of your immediate family have been affiliated with Fannie, Freddie, American International Group, Washington Mutual and any other institution getting a government bailout.
President-elect Obama made a commitment to change the way Washington does business, and the vetting process exemplifies that, Stephanie Cutter, chief spokeswoman for the Obama transition office, told the Times...
You still refuse to describe why you think he’s a “kook.”
Please tell us, or shut up.
It wasn’t a coup. The Donks won because the Republicans have become so horribly bad, and all they can do is waste their time on this non-issue.
The referenced document was pretty long but very comprehensive of the Obama birth scandal.
I suggest that everyone read it to see how the Hawaiian document that Obama has is not the Original certificate and can be issued to a foreign born baby.
Good then. Late but maybe it will get legs.
If Obama and McCain were found to not be natural born, as neither were born on US soil, the Libetarian candiate, Barr, could be said to be the rightful president. Of course, Keyes was behind Barr on the overall vote tally, but at least he would be someone the Electoral College would be able to debate over, or the Congress could debate over, if not the Congress in each state, prior to naming its choice for President.
What are you proposing?..... That the XX Amendment, Sec. 3 of the US Constitution just be thown out the window?
That an interesting point, regarding standing. This certainly needs to be pursued from all angles. I look forward to this producing fruit — or for Obama to put on his big-boy clothes, show his papers, and put this issue to bed once and for all. The One just isn’t much of “leader” ... more of “hider”.
No, he’s a Roman Catholic, and he’s not solid. When I first heard him, he was absolutely compelling in his opposition to abortion. But his uncrucified, arrogant ego overcame him completely, he was so egomaniacal that he was unable to form any alliances with anyone, and he became increasingly quixotic in his bizarre, self-referential crusades.
That summarizes years of observation and comment on FR.
Here’s what they call “kooky”:
mms://media1.pahousegop.com/video/170204423.wmv
The 20th Amendment has no standing in this issue.
Obama is our “President-Designate” until the EC votes, and then becomes our “President-Elect”. He’s not our president until he is sworn in, so the 20th Amendment has no bearing.
Besides, Obama would have to die after being sworn in for that amendment to matter. Are you planning something we aren’t aware of?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Keyes should have included the certificate for Selective Service also. Get them both.
Anyone who wants to can talk to the man himself, whenever they want. He’s available twice a week on conference calls. All folks gotta do is ask me.
Those who have availed themselves of this opportunity over many months know beyond doubt that the man you describe is an invention.
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