[Coyoteman]

BTW, when push comes to shove, an atheist soldier is not going to be too concerned with the well-being of his fellow soldiers, or the treatment of POWs, or civilians, or much of anything else. Such considerations depend entirely on an absolute moral reference. Atheists, by definition, have no foundation on which to set moral absolutes... everything is relative to the individual’s subjective point of view; i.e.: situational ethics. That is the mindset that dominates most of our culture these days.

You realize, don't you, that you have just libeled a good many fine soldiers, both past and present.

Adherence to your particular religion is not a prerequisite to being a good soldier.

And the more of your posts I read here, the fewer soldiers I suspect agree 100% with your beliefs. You appear to be quite a ways out on the fringe.

[OHelix]

No he’s not on the fringe. He’s stating a logical fact.

Whether you agree with their beliefs or not, people who believe there is a reward for their actions in life after they die are far more inclined to sacrifice their own life for that reward... be it diving on a grenade to save their friends, or flying a jetliner into a skyscraper.

A person who makes such sacrifice without believing there is a reward, however, could arguably be held to greater honor for selflessness.

But it is not libel of such soldiers, neither past nor present, to state such obvious fact.

[TCH]

The Judeo Christian Tradition is from where all morality and true justice derive. Good soldiering requires adherence to a strict moral code, else our military would have long ago devolved into anarchy and the barbaric practice reminiscent of other pagan or amoral cultures. The American military would not hold that reputation so well earned over two centuries, were not the Judeo-Christian Traditions central in its doctrine of moral conduct.

All of Western civilization owes its birth, its liberty, its jurisprudence, and its prosperity and longevity to the Catholic Church, and the Christian moral code, without which no semblance of the above attributes would have risen from the rubble that was the old Roman Empire. That is not my opinion, but historical fact.

I have no intention of arguing Catholic apologetics with you, not wanting to cast pearls before swine. I long ago discovered atheists comprise the most closed of all intellects, while the irony is they claim to have enlightened minds.

Moreover, the typical arguments the atheist conjures involve circular logic and the disproval of negatives.

I would expect that the “fringe” remark is more in line with your “beliefs.” I doubt there are many soldiers following your “creed” of atheism, just as I seriously doubt your view is supported by but a few here on FR. Shall we put your assertion it to a vote?