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To: SatinDoll

What evidence is there that the State of Hawaii is lying about Obama being born there? I see none. The governor is a Republican. This is simply going nowhere.


3 posted on 11/18/2008 7:33:13 PM PST by MovementConservative (In 4 years GW Bush and the free-spending republicans have almost completely destroyed the GOP.)
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To: MovementConservative

maybe she’s been paid to shut her pie hole.


6 posted on 11/18/2008 7:34:50 PM PST by television is just wrong (obama is going to pay my mortgage for me!)
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To: MovementConservative

The state of Hawaii has said NOTHING about whether Obama was or was not born there. What they have done is sealed his birth certificate.

When Obama was born it was quite possible to get a Hawaiian birth certificate even if you were actually born overseas, which raises an interesting issue, why did Obama fake his COLB? Was it because it would have shown his PLACE of birth?


7 posted on 11/18/2008 7:36:10 PM PST by Nipfan
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To: MovementConservative
Its a good question. Hawaii allows a person to get their own BC but not just anyone how wants it.
But the question still remains why wont Barry the Marxist release it himself.
Something is wrong here.
9 posted on 11/18/2008 7:38:36 PM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: MovementConservative

The citizen (Obama) legally has the right to lock down his own birth cert (sic).
The governor has no choice but comply with a citizen’s wishes.

Why do you think Obama went racing over there to Hawaii —when Andy Martin was poking around trying to gain some legal loophole to access the birth cert?

The grandmother angle was pure smokescreen (IMHO)


10 posted on 11/18/2008 7:39:11 PM PST by dascallie
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To: MovementConservative

>The governor is a Republican.<

So what? I remember a guy by the name of McCain. He too claimed to be a Republican but he didn’t give his Democrat opponent any run for his money during the elections.


11 posted on 11/18/2008 7:39:26 PM PST by 353FMG (The sky is not falling, yet.)
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To: MovementConservative

The State of Hawaii hasn’t said that Obama was born there. The Governor of Hawaii has simply sealed the document so no one can alter or steal it.

The evidence consists of Senator Obama’s refusal to publicly present his vault copy of the Certificate of Live Birth created at the time he was born.

His mother’s medical records indicate that she never gave birth in the United States. Her first child, a boy, was born in 1961, Mombasa, Kenya, and her second chile, a girl, was born in 1970, Djakarta, Indonesia.

Don’t ask for a reference or a link. I’ve been researching this issue for around 8 months and am thoroughly fed up with people who haven’t bothered to research this poseur who is now President Elect.


12 posted on 11/18/2008 7:42:14 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: MovementConservative

Then don’t waste anymore of your valuable time on it.


14 posted on 11/18/2008 7:43:36 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: MovementConservative

You obviously aren’t following this closely enough to have an informed opinion or ask intelligent questions.

Sit back and watch for a while.


18 posted on 11/18/2008 7:49:39 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Obama's Marxism--Chains you can believe in)
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To: MovementConservative

"This is simply going nowhere"

900+ people viewed your words! Stupid Washington Times ad won't even get 800 views, I bet.


23 posted on 11/18/2008 7:56:55 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: MovementConservative

They never said Obama was born in Hawaii. They just said that he had one on file. Hawaii is/was a state that would accept foreign births and still issue certificates.


27 posted on 11/18/2008 8:03:28 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: MovementConservative
What evidence is there that the State of Hawaii is lying about Obama being born there? I see none.

That's your question. Mine is: "What evidence is there that the State of Hawaii has said that Obama was born there?"

I've seen the statements from the Hawaii officials, and NOWHERE do they make such an assertion.

If you have evidence to the contrary, you may be the only person who has seen it.

Please post your evidence!

29 posted on 11/18/2008 8:05:30 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: MovementConservative
Do you actually believe that Hawaii's privacy lows ALLOW the Governor to go pawing around in the birth files?

Don't be ridiculous.

The only way this issue gets resolved is for Obama to be FORCED by a court to disgorge the information.

31 posted on 11/18/2008 8:05:58 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: MovementConservative; briansb; MAK1179
"The governor is a Republican"

While I don't intend this as an endorsement of the birth certificate issue, I'm also not sure what the governor of Hawaii being a "Republican" has to do with the price of strawberries. Are you assuming a "Republican" would not lie or cover for the Messiah?

Don't look now, but our precious "Republican" nominee just took a dive in this election like a Don King boxer....

37 posted on 11/18/2008 8:13:05 PM PST by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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To: MovementConservative
What evidence is there that the State of Hawaii is lying about Obama being born there? I see none. The governor is a Republican. This is simply going nowhere.

What evidence is there that the State of Hawaii has any documentation one way or another? The Governor, like David Rockefeller, is a Republican.
42 posted on 11/18/2008 8:17:14 PM PST by aWolverine
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To: MovementConservative

Try to get some information about the subject before you spout off. The state has NOT said he was born there. They did not verifiy it. They said they have a birth doc. If it is a COLB then he could have been born in Kenya.

In addition other cases like Leo Donofrio already has Obama nailed because he was a British subject at birth. the case is at SCOTUS. Get a clue.


45 posted on 11/18/2008 8:19:34 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: MovementConservative
The State of Hawaii is absolutely prohibited from commenting on any details whatsoever of Obama’s long form Birth Certificate. Only Obama, or a court order could make such details public.

They have never stated that his original long form BC indicates he was born in Hawaii. And they have never stated that whatever Obama posted on the Internet accurately matched what was on file in their records.

75 posted on 11/18/2008 8:44:15 PM PST by motoman
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To: MovementConservative
The governor is a Republican

The gov is a RINO, and has to follow HI law in any event.

101 posted on 11/18/2008 9:32:35 PM PST by DocH (Osama Obama: Leader of an America-Hating Socialist /Black Nationalist Sleeper Cell)
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To: MovementConservative

“The governor is a Republican.”

Maybe she’s afraid of an invite to Ft. Marcy Park or similar. President trumps Governor.


169 posted on 11/19/2008 6:25:05 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (We have elected a man ... who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen. - Dollard post)
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To: MovementConservative
What evidence is there that the State of Hawaii is lying about Obama being born there? I see none. The governor is a Republican. This is simply going nowhere.

Nobody has said the State of Hawaii is lying.

YOU are just not paying attention to what they have said - which is essentially nothing, at least nothing that confirms Obama was born in Hawaii.

Being in possession of a "Certification of Live Birth" does not mean he was born in Hawaii as evidenced by his half-sister - who was born in Indonesia - who also possesses a Hawaiian COLB.

186 posted on 11/19/2008 8:25:49 AM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume, No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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