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US carmaker failure could cut 4pc from economy
The Times ^ | 11/19/2008 | James Quinn

Posted on 11/19/2008 9:36:04 PM PST by bruinbirdman

The chances of the US Congress quickly approving a bill to save the "Big Three" car manufacturers are said to be "remote" but one economist warned that their collapse could shave 4pc off America's gross domestic product next year.

Democrat Senator Chris Dodd, who chairs the influential Senate banking committee, believes that the chances of Congress approving a new bill this week to advance up to $25bn in lifeline funding to Ford, General Motors and Chrysler are slim.

"I'm anxious to see something happen," said Mr Dodd, who on Tuesday heard pleas for the money from the leaders of the trio of companies plus United Auto Workers union chief Ron Gettelfinger. "But frankly, the idea that there's going to be a bill, I think, is remote," he added.

His comments came as a Deutsche Bank economist quantified the impact of the collapse of the trio on the American economy.

Deutsche's Joseph LaVorgna estimates that if the auto-makers were to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in the first three months of next year, it could cause US GDP to shrink by at least 4pc as auto production would fall by 30pc to 35pc.

He also believes unemployment would immediately leap from its current level of 6.5pc to as high as 8.25pc.

The analysis came as the heads of each of the three carmakers spent a second day on Capitol Hill pleading with politicians for the funds, this time before the House financial services committee.

The hearing got off to a good start when committe chairman Barney Frank suggested that there was an inherent anti-working class bias in the current debate, given how swiftly money was advanced to the banking sector: "Frankly, there seems to me to be an inherent cultural bias. Aid to blue-collar employees is

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1 posted on 11/19/2008 9:36:04 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman
Guess the UAW will have to wait for their lapdog to show up next year

UAW chief urges $25 bln in U.S. auto health care support (Union bailout-payback for $400,000,000) - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2127523/posts

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2 posted on 11/19/2008 9:38:09 PM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism and BO is a WHINING marxist)
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To: bruinbirdman

With DODD acting like Savior, I’d rather watch them all go down... A good BANKRUPTCY, would get them out from under the UAW’s THUMBS, and a good reorganization... They are not Going ANYWHERE...

As for DODD, you should be Perpwalked with Frank, Raines, Gorelick and Schumer for the Fanny/Freddy Destruction


3 posted on 11/19/2008 9:39:49 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (HITLER offered Hope and Change!!)
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To: bruinbirdman

Already in December, the vehicle sales data seemed to be regaining traction.

Joseph LaVorgna

We aren’t overly concerned by this slowdown. It’s hard to see consumer spending not bouncing back in the first quarter.

Joseph LaVorgna

While consumers are forking over a lot of money on gasoline, they continue to spend elsewhere, ... This tells us that job and income prospects are better than what is commonly understood.

Joseph LaVorgna

The economy is doing fine and the labor market is on the mend.

Joseph LaVorgna


4 posted on 11/19/2008 9:45:24 PM PST by kcvl
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To: gwilhelm56

The key here is the salvation of the UAW.
Is it little wonder why neither dems or republicans
explain the benefit of bankruptcy filings?

Where’s the voice of messiah? With the market tanking under
DOW 8000 the “one” has no inclination of stabilizing the jitters.


5 posted on 11/19/2008 9:47:42 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: ChiMark

Obama has to be peeing himself right now with all of this coming at him at once. He has about $800 million favors to repay.


6 posted on 11/19/2008 9:50:19 PM PST by Wisconsinlady
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To: ChiMark

**The key here is the salvation of the UAW.**

UAW has NEVER been a friend to the GOP.. so GOP should Stand up, GROW A PAIR, and Let the TRUTH FLY!!!


7 posted on 11/19/2008 9:50:44 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (HITLER offered Hope and Change!!)
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To: bruinbirdman
Barney Frank told NPR this is just the downpayment..

File Chapter 11, get it over with and start by selling the corporate jets and flying coach.

8 posted on 11/19/2008 9:51:29 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Fred
"A good BANKRUPTCY"

Chapter 11 gives them time from creditors to restructure but would probably, rapidly lead to Chapter 7. That would put GM in the hands of the bondholders for liquidation.

Know anyone who would like to buy an whole automobile factory?

yitbos

9 posted on 11/19/2008 9:54:48 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bruinbirdman

All I want is a 2008 white Denali with black leather for $5000.


10 posted on 11/19/2008 10:38:56 PM PST by MarkeyD (11-4-08 For the first time I can say I am ashamed of my country.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
File Chapter 11, get it over with and start by selling the corporate jets and flying coach.

I say make them drive their own cars!

11 posted on 11/19/2008 10:39:07 PM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: unixfox

every time the democrats support a corparate bailout its being dressed up as helping the little guy


12 posted on 11/19/2008 11:11:56 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: MarkeyD
All I want is a 2008 white Denali with black leather for $5000.

That's where I'm at. Don't give Detroit a single penny. If the govt insists on indebting us 25bn, give it to the citizens in the form of a massive discount on US autos. That way, we'll clean the lots out, spreading the wealth from the dealerships right up the chain. Detroit should get enough $ out of it to keep the lights on and maybe this time around, build some cars we'd pay retail for.

13 posted on 11/19/2008 11:21:34 PM PST by kittycatonline.com
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To: unixfox
File Chapter 11, get it over with and start by selling the corporate jets and flying coach.

New headline: Boeing needs bailout, warns of impending doom to lack of demand, cites flood of used corporate jets on the market

14 posted on 11/19/2008 11:23:31 PM PST by kittycatonline.com
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To: kittycatonline.com

Exactly! 25 billion!. Give 15,000 to a million families who need a new car, with the stipulation that they buy a car from one of the Big Three within three months.

Talk about an economic stimulus! But no, they’re just going to hand checks to the CEOs.


15 posted on 11/19/2008 11:35:50 PM PST by Marie2 (Everything the left does has the effect and intent of destroying the traditional family.)
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To: MarkeyD

Lots of dealer lots loaded with cars and trucks.
Maybe you’ll find a good deal at an auction.


16 posted on 11/20/2008 1:14:47 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
Lots of dealer lots loaded with cars and trucks.
Maybe you’ll find a good deal at an auction.


That's part of the problem: vehicle density.

Why bailout won't save Detroit
17 posted on 11/20/2008 9:04:27 AM PST by wolf78
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