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National Intelligence Council report: sun setting on the American century
Times of London ^ | 11/21/08 | Tim Reid

Posted on 11/20/2008 5:45:47 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

November 21, 2008

National Intelligence Council report: sun setting on the American century

The report said that global warming will aggravate the scarcity of water, food and energy resources

Tim Reid in Washington

The next two decades will see a world living with the daily threat of nuclear war, environmental catastrophe and the decline of America as the dominant global power, according to a frighteningly bleak assessment by the US intelligence community.

“The world of the near future will be subject to an increased likelihood of conflict over resources, including food and water, and will be haunted by the persistence of rogue states and terrorist groups with greater access to nuclear weapons,” said the report by the National Intelligence Council, a body of analysts from across the US intelligence community.

The analysts said that the report had been prepared in time for Barack Obama’s entry into the Oval office on January 20, where he will be faced with some of the greatest challenges of any newly elected US president.

“The likelihood that nuclear weapons will be used will increase with expanded access to technology and a widening range of options for limited strikes,” the 121-page assessment said.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; americandominance; americanempire; bho2008; chaos; multipolar
We would have tumultuous time ahead. Probably for two decades. History will impose its correction. Those who used to live on excess would be profuoundly shaken.

While America's relative importance can diminish, I don't see any player replacing its place anytime soon. Because China, India and Russia would go into its own harrowing correction. China and India have population size which stretched the carrying capacity of their land to the limit. Their population size would be set for "abrupt correction." Russia could continue to spiral down.

As bad as things would be in U.S., it could be much tougher for other major players. Those who are too cocky or arrogant would not survive this period.

We are to be humbled by history.

1 posted on 11/20/2008 5:45:47 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

American decline is always around the corner. But until a political entity arises with the idealogical and economic unity of America that problem is far off into the future. Even if it is no longer 1/3 of the global economy, America is still the biggest player and can easily form winning coalitions with the anglo-saxon sphere and Japan.

The only problem America has is energy independence. Once we get some kind of fusion off the ground, we can stop giving a damn about the middle east and let Europe foot the bill from defending itself from a resurgent russia and the islamic threat from within. Let the euro-sissies pay the price for their arrogance.


2 posted on 11/20/2008 5:49:39 PM PST by DiogenesLaertius
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Our "national intelligence community" missed India's bomb, Paki's bomb, the various Arab-Israel wars, the rout of S. Viet forces in Saigon, the N Korean bomb, the impact of China and India's demand for crude oil, etc...
Excuse me if I discount their opinions just a skosh.
3 posted on 11/20/2008 5:49:54 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Key word “Intelligence”, as in lacking any.

Because of a hoax we are doomed. I say prove it.


4 posted on 11/20/2008 5:50:16 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Every generation thinks they are living in the most tumultuous time in history.


5 posted on 11/20/2008 5:50:57 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I have thought for some time that the economic correction in China will be worse than in the US. But the question is, what will Obama do? That really worries me.

Tough times coming all over the world.


6 posted on 11/20/2008 5:50:57 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Well the last Depression took the world down because of our economy tanking ... what position will the world be in after we’re no longer a factor????


7 posted on 11/20/2008 5:51:20 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: DiogenesLaertius

>>>>American decline is always around the corner. <<<<<<

So true. We have ***always*** been on the precipice.


8 posted on 11/20/2008 5:52:51 PM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
global warming will aggravate the scarcity of water

We exporting water off the planet now? Otherwise, all the water is still here on the planet.

/johnny

9 posted on 11/20/2008 5:53:34 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: SMCC1
The economic problem we are facing is far bigger. The international situation is messed up, too. Margin for safety is quite narrowed.

This time, it won't be a media hype.

10 posted on 11/20/2008 5:54:35 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Well if the US intelligence community is dumb enough to believe in global warming as all signs point to cooling, we can see that the problem is. Fire all the idiots who wrote this assessment and start over.


11 posted on 11/20/2008 5:54:46 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Interesting read, though the presence of Global Warming tomfoolery does diminish its credibility. However, I would agree that times both grim and dark are coming.


12 posted on 11/20/2008 5:54:47 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: TheWasteLand
Yes, I did not like the inclusion of global warming, either. However, we would have some natural disaster wreaking havoc in combination of economic and social problem. Especially in China and possibly in India.
13 posted on 11/20/2008 5:56:57 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
We are ‘humbled’ because we exported our manufacturing seed corn to the world, our military to bail out the world and aborted and contraceptived our growth.
14 posted on 11/20/2008 5:57:52 PM PST by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"global warming"

That's a real tough concept to get through to read the rest.

15 posted on 11/20/2008 6:02:19 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: Paladin2
I agree. I suspect Intel community has “PC-quota,” in the name of soliciting “diverse opinions.”
16 posted on 11/20/2008 6:04:16 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The problem is that these other countries may start wars to take their population's minds off their economic problems.

The global warming idiot activists will just make things worse.

17 posted on 11/20/2008 6:04:43 PM PST by expatpat
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To: JRandomFreeper
"Otherwise, all the water is still here on the planet."

Those Ice Ages tend to reduce the amount of available liquid water.

18 posted on 11/20/2008 6:06:17 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: expatpat
Yes, wars will come inevitably. The question is whether they would stay regional or turn into global one.

If we can get by with just regional wars, I would call it a success.

19 posted on 11/20/2008 6:07:12 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

I can see Russia rising in such times as they practice conservatism on many issues and don’t give weight to the globull warming hysteria.


20 posted on 11/20/2008 6:17:38 PM PST by Teflonic
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To: expatpat

But...but...but...we’re supposed to be globally cooling already...


21 posted on 11/20/2008 6:20:17 PM PST by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

We’ll be OK, but we need to makes some changes. Here’s a few questions:

1. To secure the future of the nation it would be better to support and promote the immigration of:
a. Individuals who love democracy and freedom, think of America as the land of opportunity, and who want to assimilate into American culture.
or
b. Individuals who do not want to assimilate, and think that America causes many of the problems in the world.

2. To ensure economic prosperity in America it is more important to:
a. Make innovative high quality products that can be sold both in the US and around the world.
or
b. Export manufacturing to other countries and concentrate on jobs in which people can make money off of other people’s money and efforts.

3. To promote honesty in government it is best to:
a. Elect representatives from a wide representation of society who serve for only a few terms before going back into private life.
or
b. Elect representatives who have never held a private sector job, whose major qualification is a law degree, and reelect them continuously.


22 posted on 11/20/2008 6:28:15 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: DiogenesLaertius

“American decline is always around the corner. But until a political entity arises with the idealogical and economic unity of America that problem is far off into the future. Even if it is no longer 1/3 of the global economy, America is still the biggest player and can easily form winning coalitions with the anglo-saxon sphere and Japan.

The only problem America has is energy independence. Once we get some kind of fusion off the ground, we can stop giving a damn about the middle east and let Europe foot the bill from defending itself from a resurgent russia and the islamic threat from within. Let the euro-sissies pay the price for their arrogance.”

Wishful thinking.


23 posted on 11/20/2008 6:30:24 PM PST by unkus
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To: the Real fifi

That was my take. I saw the term Global Warming and ceased to take this seriously. As for nukes, with a little will power, we could stop Iran and disarm Pakistan. But that is apparently asking too much.


24 posted on 11/20/2008 6:31:05 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

I like your way of thinking.

I would only a few more HIGHLY politically-incorrect questions to your quiz.


25 posted on 11/20/2008 6:33:43 PM PST by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: rbg81

“That was my take. I saw the term Global Warming and ceased to take this seriously. As for nukes, with a little will power, we could stop Iran and disarm Pakistan. But that is apparently asking too much.”

The powers that be want to wreck us, don’t you see?

Obama will do nothing for the good of America.


26 posted on 11/20/2008 6:34:06 PM PST by unkus
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Leftist projection of self-loathing based on typical leftist themes of climate change and food shortages.

Well, we may indeed get notable climate change, for our summer and fall were far cooler than normal. If leftists had not lobbied government into distorting the economics of biofuels, many more of the world's poor could afford to buy corn and things made more costly because their value as a fuel is more based on use as energy than as food.

27 posted on 11/20/2008 6:41:16 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

EXACTLY!! bttt


28 posted on 11/20/2008 6:45:18 PM PST by Matchett-PI (2008 = The Year of the Toilet for 'RATS (They just don't know it yet))
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To: SMCC1

Until now, I always thought that my generation was living in the best of times, now the future is uncertain and by the signs it doesn’t look good, but it is still in the future.


29 posted on 11/20/2008 8:01:40 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Normandy; Delacon; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

30 posted on 11/21/2008 3:21:05 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The analysts said that the report had been prepared in time for Barack Obama’s entry into the Oval office on January 20, where he will be faced with some of the greatest challenges of any newly elected US president.

Yep, the Cuban Missile Crisis was a walk in the park!!

31 posted on 11/21/2008 8:23:29 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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