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To: RandallFlagg
The Hawaiian Government may have a copy of his short form (a legal affidavit was said to be sent to the Hawaiian government by his mother after the birth of Obama in Kenya), but if there is a long form showing Obama was born in the USA (Hawaii) at the time then why the big mystery?

Release the document and prove he is a citizen and let's go after his Ideologies. If he is not a citizen, and his staff and most of the Dems knew he was not a citizen, then the Democrats are guilty of a “Coup d'etat”.... if Obama is not an American Born Citizen..then we have a Constitutional Crisis on our hands.

If this comes down to this man not being a natural born citizen, this is serious business folks. Most of all, why did the Democrat Party file a counter claim that Berg did not have standing? Why not show the LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE to clarify any problems? Why continue to hide the BIRTH CERTIFICATE? Exactly what is the problem?

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

12 posted on 11/21/2008 2:30:09 AM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Paige

Leo’s case has a claim where he does not even need the BC/COLB. Obama admitted he was a British citizen at birth because of his dad. His father was from Kenya then Zanazibar run by Britain. This alone disqualifies Obama.

Leo put in multiple claims like a good attorney should.


101 posted on 11/21/2008 7:00:13 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Paige
The Hawaiian Government may have a copy of his short form (a legal affidavit was said to be sent to the Hawaiian government by his mother after the birth of Obama in Kenya)

That would not be the "Short Form". The Short Form is what Obama released a forgery of on daily KOS and later sent another "copy" to FactCheck.org. The short form is just an extract of the data in the state birth records database. The long form is the "real"/"original" BC, and even one based on the affidavit process would still be a "long form", but it would indicate it's genesis. It would not have doctor's signature and might not have the hospital, or it might have the hospital and city of birth.

155 posted on 11/21/2008 9:21:32 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Paige

There were many claims in Berg’s suit, which would not have been settled by an authentic B.C. proving Hawaiian birth.

The reason the ‘rats/Hussein’s CAIR legal team moved for dismissal of the Berg suit for lack of standing was because they could. And it worked, as far as that suit went. Saved them the hassle of actually having to defend against the suit on its merits, assuming they could theoretically do that.

Why should they go through all the motions of defending all the claims of Berg if they could just have it thrown out? You would have done the same in their position.

Even if Hussein has an original, long-form vault copy of his birth certificate proving he was indeed born in Honolulu, there are all sorts of ancillary issues related to dual/lost citizenship that have to be adjudicated. So simply obtaining dismissal was the simplest and most effective way for them to hold us off at that juncture.

Of course it leaves all kinds of questions unanswered, and we are seeing the issues linger and grow more pressing, thankfully.

There are legal precedents that may allow Hussein to get around all that childhood dual citizenship/lost US citizenship stuff, but until he presents his original long-form B.C. we don’t even know for sure if he can surmount the biggest question of where he was really born.


241 posted on 11/21/2008 9:41:04 PM PST by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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